From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:06:31 -0700 Message-ID: <55F76F17.5010406@dancol.org> References: <55DB7C3D.4090106@cs.ucla.edu> <55DE75FD.8020308@cs.ucla.edu> <55F5DD8C.70506@dancol.org> <55F62C16.4000105@dancol.org> <55F64F04.9030002@dancol.org> <55F6E43E.9030502@dancol.org> <55F70C4E.8030805@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VMl35rvncNP73BrH484C61PsQ50WtNNXM" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442279230 11117 80.91.229.3 (15 Sep 2015 01:07:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 01:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , Emacs development discussions , Philipp Stephani , =?UTF-8?Q?Aur=c3=a9lien_Aptel?= , Tom Tromey , Stephen Leake To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 03:07:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbei9-0003cX-AZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 03:07:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44360 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbei8-0003gQ-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbehv-0003gF-Pu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:06:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbehu-00019f-VV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:06:51 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:38835) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbehu-00019O-L6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 21:06:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=e/RCn2zjKkV1IWdjO9+Gpv92rGdXEBRDZaNgAMCmpaI=; b=iB9/Ml7X6FhOMO0osnuy23dheKyxp7EYbCNYMrt9n5mKT8z9ia1J2mYCnLDSOVlIgoE9zUGwqtKupFKclcpA9a+RTU+b7KqVOHEBccQTKpBhECgaoD2tnDgczpnPgIE8ORCFjJrG40r1OpnIxoj2gyMhCnmHE5N0/87PMnD6nxlrT7gplZpcRIZRvaVbr1h7TQW+Rq1zyyUHTIklmeKeUHnK9fYCB1jiK7RHkoHiyaHE07TB0pxuGFSzIMECxatNtWYGSBeBzZ6GJ2VQG+ZK0BHwW3A46wblVHg90vPwEIWPgL4bXOop4+xX4Ay8L6ohyAKvSRAOYmSDEGSH0O5KoQ==; Original-Received: from [2620:10d:c090:180::1d54] (helo=[IPv6:2620:10d:c081:1101:2ab2:bdff:fe1c:db58]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbehh-0003p3-AZ; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:06:37 -0700 X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189960 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --VMl35rvncNP73BrH484C61PsQ50WtNNXM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/14/2015 05:55 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Just, FWIW we can keep talking about it, but my opinion is quite firmly= > made. I want the first API to provide access to the "naked" primitives= > with no condition-case wrapping. The "first API" being the one with which we have to maintain binary compatibility? Well, at least I haven't lost on the merits of the design. There's no shame in losing to "because I say so". 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