From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: text-quoting-style Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:49 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <55E080C5.2070801@cs.ucla.edu> References: <55E0085D.3000404@cs.ucla.edu> <83pp2750e1.fsf@gnu.org> <55E013C0.1060106@cs.ucla.edu> <83oahr4xe0.fsf@gnu.org> <55E07794.2090707@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj1b2zwh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440776422 10941 80.91.229.3 (28 Aug 2015 15:40:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 17:40:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLlF-0005gw-NW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:40:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48473 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLlF-0005ZM-35 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLl0-0005Z4-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLl0-0002nn-1Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:39:58 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:34690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVLku-0002kD-Rz; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E03160F3A; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id A7AgxbW8PkvI; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485B8160F75; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id MnE2oQlZZYWu; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 278DD160F3A; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83zj1b2zwh.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189273 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > When you set LC_ALL=C you "misconfigure" the environment. It appears we're miscommunicating. I'm not suggesting to set LC_ALL=C for Emacs only. I'm suggesting to set LC_ALL=C everywhere. If your display can't handle non-ASCII characters, then GCC, coreutils, and many other applications will generate what appears to be gibberish in UTF-8 locales. The fix is simple: avoid UTF-8 locales if you can't display UTF-8. This is not an issue specific to Emacs, or to curved single quotation marks.