From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:41:01 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <55D3C28D.3000006@cs.ucla.edu> References: <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> <55D15899.2070105@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817121513.GA2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D21191.8070202@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817173551.GB2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D29EA6.2020009@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818103921.GA2262@acm.fritz.box> <55D36132.1020900@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818171715.GD2262@acm.fritz.box> <55D3869E.30302@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818204211.GF2262@acm.fritz.box> <55D3A641.7040409@cs.ucla.edu> <87bne4fc7s.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439941285 17477 80.91.229.3 (18 Aug 2015 23:41:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:41:25 +0000 (UTC) To: =?UTF-8?B?w5NzY2FyIEZ1ZW50ZXM=?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 19 01:41:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRqVD-0001Fq-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:41:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59994 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRqVC-0007xp-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:41:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRqV9-0007wc-DO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:41:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRqV5-00012T-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:35482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRqV5-000129-6s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9FC160D22; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id UL4ZUHKCfZVW; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7CD160D98; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:41:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 8FDsSyIy-i-z; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 428B0160D22; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:41:01 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 In-Reply-To: <87bne4fc7s.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188917 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > I admit that curly quotes are nicer, but that's easily achievable: make > them appear on*Help* and other buffers that shows docstrings. That was done weeks ago. This thread is about something else: quotes in=20 diagnostics. It's not as easy to get diagnostics right, which is why we'= re=20 having this discussion. > Maybe describing the specific > user-visible improvements that this change will help to bring into > reality would buy you more support. I have no secret master plan for revolutionizing Emacs. I'm just trying = to make=20 improvements one step at a time. If it helps, I think diagnostics are th= e last=20 major component of getting Emacs quoting to follow common modern practice= =20 (controlled by user preference of course).