From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:45:38 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <55D36132.1020900@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150816160149.9416.80132@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <55D1043C.3030909@yandex.ru> <55D15899.2070105@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817121513.GA2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D21191.8070202@cs.ucla.edu> <20150817173551.GB2634@acm.fritz.box> <55D29EA6.2020009@cs.ucla.edu> <20150818103921.GA2262@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439916370 11362 80.91.229.3 (18 Aug 2015 16:46:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 18 18:46:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRk1R-0007LZ-Iu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:46:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58480 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRk1Q-0007zS-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:46:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39319) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRk1C-0007lI-VP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:45:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRk19-00026X-Q7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:45:46 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:48332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRk19-00026L-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E9B160D66; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id bJlunNyI-8WE; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E36160D96; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id lmW7KskQ1duI; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB49C160D66; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 In-Reply-To: <20150818103921.GA2262@acm.fritz.box> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188896 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Sorry, you've lost me. Which philosophical issue would that be? It's illustrated by your next comment: > you're conflating the two different issues of non-ascii characters > and non-working characters. We disagree about this. They're not orthogonal issues. They're so closely related that they're almost the same issue. Emacs currently makes it harder to deal with non-ASCII and/or non-working characters than it could. Restricting our source code to ASCII and/or working characters has helped us put our heads in the sand about the problem.