From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:14 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <557F3DCE.6040606@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87mw01uj06.fsf@gmail.com> <877fr5t282.fsf@gnu.org> <557F2ECC.40201@cs.ucla.edu> <874mm8k9rq.fsf@petton.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434402290 8819 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2015 21:04:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nicolas Petton , Oleh Krehel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 15 23:04:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4bYY-0000MS-OR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:04:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36459 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4bYY-00063Z-1C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59881) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4bYL-00063I-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4bYG-0002dC-PY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:38608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4bYG-0002d3-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:04:16 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8489160815; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id QGZFgUefG1TQ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFAD16081D; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YtHmHuV6Yhrn; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-100-32-155-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F337A160815; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:04:14 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <874mm8k9rq.fsf@petton.fr> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187202 Archived-At: Nicolas Petton wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > >> >Tassilo Horn wrote: >>> >>But we're still referring to a function argument `foo' as FOO in >>> >>docstrings, no? >> > >> >Yes, there's no proposal to change that. > I don't understand. When I enable electric-quote-mode and type `hello' > in a docstring, I get =E2=80=98hello=E2=80=98 instead. Tasillo was talking about function arguments, not about functions. For e= xample,=20 when I type 'C-h f car RET' I see the following, and here the argument is= still=20 written as all-caps LIST without quotation of any sort. ----- car is a built-in function in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99. (car LIST) Return the car of LIST. If arg is nil, return nil. Error if arg is not nil and not a cons cell. See also =E2=80=98car-safe=E2= =80=99. See Info node =E2=80=98(elisp)Cons Cells=E2=80=99 for a discussion of rel= ated basic Lisp concepts such as car, cdr, cons cell and list.