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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: tgbugs@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Discoverability (was: Changes for 28)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 12:05:17 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5574118f-11a7-4976-ae24-3449609dfc4d@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83k0x1ii9i.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > there are countervailing good reasons to move them
> > from Edit (e.g. to File).
> 
> Where did you see a Go To item under File?  It makes no sense.

I don't know that I saw it anywhere.

It makes more sense to me than putting it under
`Edit'.  Likewise `Bookmarks', which is also
(typically) about moving somewhere.

Just as `File' often has entries for accessing
recently opened files, so I see it as having
entries for accessing other "locations".

But I'm not going to argue with you.  It was a
parenthetical remark, which you've jumped on
defensively with comments about `Edit' not being
random etc.  You're well aware that I'm aware of
the deliberation that's gone into menu choices.

I suggest that it would help to move search to
a top-level menu (`Search' or `Find').  And I
suggest that the "go-somewhere" stuff on `Edit'
be moved elsewhere (`File' is an OK choice, IMO).

Just a suggestion.

I don't think `Edit' should be a catch basin.
But yes, neither should `File' or `Tools' or ...
___

FWIW, I've had it this way in `menu-bar+.el' since
1995.  I have other changes there as well, some of
which fit some of what Xah Lee says.

One feature that I think is particularly helpful is
that the local (current-mode) menus are separated
from the others (common menus).  The local menus
come first, followed by a separator and then the
common menus.

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/menu-bar%2b.el



       reply	other threads:[~2020-09-10 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <<<9ea72b0f-7799-4b17-b165-15cf453a2a62@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<83o8mdimxw.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<945622ca-6837-4fee-adc3-572cb84a6d83@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83k0x1ii9i.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-10 19:05           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-10 19:42             ` Discoverability (was: Changes for 28) Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<CA+G3_PN2br=KTRvg+L7JNbR=io-0J=j0SQs-=hQAN=KJh+bpww@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<<E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<<9ea72b0f-7799-4b17-b165-15cf453a2a62@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<83o8mdimxw.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<945622ca-6837-4fee-adc3-572cb84a6d83@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<83k0x1ii9i.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<5574118f-11a7-4976-ae24-3449609dfc4d@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83een9iflf.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-10 20:50               ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<CA+G3_PN2br=KTRvg+L7JNbR=io-0J=j0SQs-=hQAN=KJh+bpww@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<9ea72b0f-7799-4b17-b165-15cf453a2a62@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83o8mdimxw.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-10 18:30       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 18:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 23:17 Tom Gillespie
2020-09-09  2:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-09  4:36   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-09-11  4:07     ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09  8:07   ` tomas
2020-09-10  2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10  2:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10 16:53   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 17:03     ` Eli Zaretskii

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