From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default mouse wheel scrolling is jumpy Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 04:28:16 +0300 Message-ID: <555A91B0.9080405@yandex.ru> References: <1431982998.3001.0@smtp.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431998925 31969 80.91.229.3 (19 May 2015 01:28:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 01:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , =?UTF-8?Q?Simen_Heggest=c3=b8yl?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 19 03:28:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWKl-0007aY-Vd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 03:28:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43509 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWKl-00009R-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:28:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59921) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWKh-000097-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWKc-0004ra-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]:36315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWKc-0004mm-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: by wizk4 with SMTP id k4so99083747wiz.1 for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 18:28:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kg323m5sGIL/V/G0KhiWOD5VYpYDgaeZ/mA/zWe9Ce8=; b=jiKCY+IMxrBHHJYCzzn9RRRROkKeHGPpb+S6XBxzuIdeBBQLVAjx8Qdbgwl0G3MGv5 uUVdPeHctPGqxCiPkE7nP31N1W2LiC6uVpgaouyWpNeIQOAI2p0hGaH6GtkIn1DREpjy WZHy5i8z01CsI2CAFZQxasSqMcM+AH0GZ4bEyn5XdYTm+gbiDEevuoCSRC1+mGtmCNGZ hEKZ3PVvC/lahn6RlxCccpd3iO8N1v3BY2xsTYk26PBLehgNuUzGt9aoHsnMy3CfPVSY UNPxEP+gRc8RUUErHBzQWDjFaAiX4YjSppIDKPAf6fXKA6rnG/6Zi0F4c8r9bv+5EZAc M3kQ== X-Received: by 10.180.24.65 with SMTP id s1mr26148398wif.66.1431998898627; Mon, 18 May 2015 18:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gt10sm14868563wib.20.2015.05.18.18.28.17 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 May 2015 18:28:18 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186609 Archived-At: On 05/19/2015 04:16 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I see Firefox uses more like a setting of 2 rather than 5 nowadays, so > maybe we should revisit those defaults indeed. Part of the reason is > that devices have changed. IME, Firefox scrolls by 3 lines rather than 2. > With the (old) wheel-mouse I'm using > a setting of 5 works rather well, but the rare few times I've used > a touchpad with a scroll area, I've indeed found the behavior to be > difficult to use. Touchpads are tricky to get right, and the scroll amount (that the user expects) also differs by the OS. Maybe we should have a different setting for them, if distinguishing is possible.