From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package installation messages Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 03:00:18 +0300 Message-ID: <55553712.2050608@yandex.ru> References: <55552452.7050703@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431648050 10324 80.91.229.3 (15 May 2015 00:00:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 00:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bozhidar Batsov , emacs-devel To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 15 02:00:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt33R-0001XF-HB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 02:00:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57068 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt33Q-00075O-EK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 20:00:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt33J-00075J-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 20:00:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt33G-0000QR-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 20:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:34981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt33G-0000OF-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 20:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: by wicmx19 with SMTP id mx19so38414034wic.0 for ; Thu, 14 May 2015 17:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5RVRNz+yiZWsKVWdKMICee1r5PT9JKf03VLH+1IYCfA=; b=LE/JO/FXFNVYbrEemaoKyeg+YjWwO6RxsMz/5mYcHx5XVtHzyREl4KLIvsLlm3353B ASxJjTY1ps01Dq+7rvG/umIUWUx0HiS8HcXgyfD17a4eR3uz5XCa9QcYWGv89YWAmfw1 tHk6vWu/FS6dns6bPBjxfS9qKNrajwRO1pRc1TMhn6cLlfJhMTgSuDMcEZfwlA4t+xOJ Hn868CEqGLAm4Z/VYdkpCIsxLpT5C3vbVFhEPvvIwAWmS+awxrjHzzL/rTYRt5EXjRVg nQE5hvrV4BzS0N32opAqnvIRLzEUkaK3DEujwMGqpEXJtxOQ8t/3WVqpF0j50ZbkbC54 j7UQ== X-Received: by 10.180.101.138 with SMTP id fg10mr28518089wib.46.1431648020441; Thu, 14 May 2015 17:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bg4sm824974wjc.10.2015.05.14.17.00.19 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 May 2015 17:00:20 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186501 Archived-At: On 05/15/2015 02:15 AM, Artur Malabarba wrote: > Now that the async features have been out for a few months, I can say I > like the async refreshing but I'm not a fan of how async installation > turned out (for the exact reasons you mention above). I see 3 options, > and I'd like to know what people think. Async refreshing has grown on me too, but it still needs to implement retaining the marks set by the user. > 1. Keep the feature but disable by default. Async refreshing would still > be enabled. I'd rather we not keep options for behavior nobody has specifically asked for. > 2. Implement it using a background emacs process. This has been > mentioned here before, it would not cause emacs to hang during the > unpacking stage, and would not be interrupted by C-g. Guess that's an option, if maybe a heavy-weight one. > 3. Just revert it. This has the advantage of simplifying the logic. > Async refreshing would still be kept. IIUC, async installation also performs downloads concurrently, right? That would be a useful trait to keep.