From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 04:31:08 +0300 Message-ID: <5525D65C.8090303@yandex.ru> References: <552130FE.1010101@yandex.ru> <83mw2mn2no.fsf@gnu.org> <5521359D.2000509@yandex.ru> <83fv8emvgq.fsf@gnu.org> <55219139.8040507@yandex.ru> <83oan2l4pk.fsf@gnu.org> <5521B811.8070603@yandex.ru> <83d23hlmia.fsf@gnu.org> <20150407165131.GA2600@acm.fritz.box> <552486A4.2020803@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428544119 2239 80.91.229.3 (9 Apr 2015 01:48:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 09 03:48:35 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yg1a5-00058X-NP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:48:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55845 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yg1a5-0001rZ-7T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yg1Zp-0001rO-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yg1JL-0000sX-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:32:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]:37391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yg1JL-0000rq-Dx; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:31:15 -0400 Original-Received: by wiaa2 with SMTP id a2so79780190wia.0; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:31:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5C64vlBO14jH9Vu7jIEGWtn9d5LqbPK3yRZd66WyG+s=; b=dNMiwMUk4p8LYLxmqmIPwMqBWYeyLeqmq2g9IXipEr9TJxbxwX212j3qzxgyQ75FM3 WGj3uFeGLZkmTgV9tjME7LES4/Tes03EIucdxR1LkidKlLPBFW0Iaa0WGmArDhZPNGYm 1Gph8LG85BsDgsap1VroJeVo4RqxQZSDQHLaU4Tgzf8kWCiJf5yc/3MclZvsyXjqSGdb z0nhnHl6xyKJtBEJLdxwLxAGJ43cmBAUN+ouzDi0MB/1E9vVeek41afKsG4dUDN+pk0w YcYochzFrDVL0amIthyMXKQEb5SzZKQG4b4hgw9aNVTpVZDU03BYLsOOfp5c+v1JSAhV O2KQ== X-Received: by 10.194.83.66 with SMTP id o2mr56230411wjy.55.1428543070645; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([82.102.93.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dm6sm17930434wib.22.2015.04.08.18.31.09 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/36.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185181 Archived-At: On 04/08/2015 09:19 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > If you love complexity for complexity's sake, Git and Emacs will offer > you plenty. The difference is, in Emacs you can learn certain > complexity when you find it worth while, and ignore the rest. In Git > you must learn the complexity to do even the simplest things. Nonsense, nobody loves complexity. I like power and transparency. Git is pretty transparent, and one can peer into Emacs's inner workings very easily, at least compared to most other advanced editors. You can ignore Emacs's complexity if you're okay with giving up features, but then it becomes inferior in many respects to other, "modern" editors, which arguably offer more features on lower levels of complexity. It doesn't have to be this way, but that's where things are at now.