From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Caldwell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC mode and git Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:00:02 -0700 Message-ID: <55134C02.8010402@porkrind.org> References: <86egoeusg2.fsf@example.com> <83pp7yp5po.fsf@gnu.org> <86sicte9j3.fsf@example.com> <83y4mlnee2.fsf@gnu.org> <20150325181959.GC3833@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms020508080607050203010104" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427328075 14635 80.91.229.3 (26 Mar 2015 00:01:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , Emacs developers To: Yuri Khan , Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 26 01:01:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YavEH-0006QW-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 01:00:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41949 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YavEG-0001Km-MB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32991) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YavE2-0001Kh-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:00:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YavE1-0005J4-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:00:42 -0400 Original-Received: from sa38.galvanix.net ([98.126.48.38]:45089 helo=kill.porkrind.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YavDv-0005BV-VV; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:00:36 -0400 Original-Received: from porkrind.org (cpe-76-170-36-134.socal.res.rr.com [76.170.36.134]) by kill.porkrind.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27DB75F329; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: kill.porkrind.org; dkim=fail reason="verification failed; unprotected key" header.d=porkrind.org header.i=@porkrind.org header.b=Li/w+h5/; dkim-adsp=fail (unprotected policy); dkim-atps=neutral Original-Received: from [10.0.0.10] (black.local [10.0.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by porkrind.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id t2Q003e0017326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:00:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=porkrind.org; s=apoptygma; t=1427328005; bh=jIwVaMPZg/QtjxDW0EARMgD5NMc5QSi3INNyhmfETZA=; h=Subject:To:references:Cc:From:Date:in-reply-to:From; b=Li/w+h5/AQs95ARSLIWjaBSaMUnOhy2LFojLgIC1Tq5xHmUJqjtpZnZimMEzVOY7V u9M/v2TTOGHGxsBXZHRhc0358HUkWv88E9S75rvB1H/HkBYIzmBJVZNS00+pjc5jGd B1C16Hoph1Cp2xBQU13drwor7WMTZ+BLdpDgfUgEiKzM8ip+IvFx3slrsfSl938L8u uJ52ozU2sLi+uOpXX96LZly0aKcnmdWzNCRkrkSr+ZkxMtKoRG2ALhI2lcO face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAQAAAD9CzEMAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwY AAAABGdBTUEAALGOfPtRkwAAACBjSFJNAAB6JQAAgIMAAPn/AACA6QAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF2+S X8VGAAABiklEQVR42rRYSZIDIQwzLv7/ZXLoEAzeBKG7ag4DRhZeBKQ0Qr5imLWCrKwn0HImc1Mx aAvmmc/cuAT7RMYws6v/gHeb0p4/y5792GJJlLZWOPgsdV5NaRes4Xe4632sLljD7wKv1Ta74H/h MxecN1Rc2TatYcP7zb+6WFfN/zMSHg1Ymuxjrzd+DuLw6Nlekggt1hvr7KK9tRIX85jjM6GTYhfv nzXH3jBdYc4koueBs66M+Xv9O9n5ML4urWssjGeMY3if3bzGSvk30BQ46OOaxJjLCpzPJAzXrOrD z5VFh58TIiwESIiCHNxxwPTy97qDei8YdpVdyYEv6EQcK8n+iTyE/Cn1eoe7HwN+F56oErVSGtJY Q1sR2ehaUHfjvJuv0tL7qAzEbBmfF2IHrVi8zp9N0pZtQZZHOXp/sLW4+hqKvm3iccaPwP3XgnKX n8/YtVeOsnenRG7VCBFlZ5fe3LOyANCVdGAIwDs7tTXGF4hIk15/iAfSgv2UkNFItSszOG3Ha7r0 GQBerhBkHOAzmQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:37.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/37.0 in-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 98.126.48.38 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184272 Archived-At: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020508080607050203010104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/25/15 11:37 AM, Yuri Khan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >=20 >> I'm mystified as to what the git index is for. What's its motivation,= >> what's it used for, what does it gain me in exchange for the extra >> complexity? Does anybody have a link to a justification? I'm genuine= ly >> curious about this. >=20 > I view the index as a convenience. >=20 > The use case goes like this. I work on a feature. At the same time, I > notice some coding style violations, or bad spelling/grammar, or > possible enhancements unrelated to the feature. Git certainly makes this pleasant (especially with `git add -p`). Back before git I wanted the same type of features so a friend and I wrote "commit-patch" (http://www.porkrind.org/commit-patch/). It supports a bunch of different VCSes (including git) and integrates well with Emacs--you basically get a diff somehow (`C-x v =3D` or `C-x v D` for me,= usually), edit the diff using Emacs's handy diff mode tools, then commit that patch with `C-c C-c`. I find it's *much* easier to deal with than magit or anything else I've seen so far, and it's heavenly to have fine-grained commit control even when stuck with CVS and SVN. -David --------------ms020508080607050203010104 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DGAwggYkMIIFDKADAgECAgMM240wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYw FAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSswKQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZp Y2F0ZSBTaWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJt ZWRpYXRlIENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0xNTAyMDUwMTUxNDdaFw0xNjAyMDYwMDAzMTNaMEAxGzAZ BgNVBAMMEmRhdmlkQHBvcmtyaW5kLm9yZzEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSZGF2aWRAcG9ya3Jp bmQub3JnMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA7HjIR+hHVT+RlXpDQWHt 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