From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:24:57 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <54DA8539.1020905@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87y4t9m76w.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85k31coixa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85oapy5kt6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y4oiiw81.fsf@gnu.org> <838ugdf251.fsf@gnu.org> <54D80098.3020209@cs.ucla.edu> <54D85304.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> <54D9AC29.2020603@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423607137 17087 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 22:25:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?B?QXVyw6lsaWVuIEFwdGVs?= , Stephen Leake , Emacs development discussions To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 23:25:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLJFF-00007C-58 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:25:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42254 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLJFE-0006Zy-GO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55092) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLJF0-0006Z1-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:25:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLJEt-0007Jy-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:25:10 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:41020) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLJEt-0007I8-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99042A6008A; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:25:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v-u-XN3iWMXp; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:25:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5AC9AA60085; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:25:01 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182845 Archived-At: On 02/10/2015 12:40 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I think what this boils down to, is that we need a "emacs.h" or > something like that which modules would include instead of including > lisp.h. Yes, I was thinking of something along those lines as well. "emacs.h" could, for example, define a symbol EMACS_MODULE that is 1 (whereas it's 0 for core Emacs code), and then globals.h could conditionally define Qxxx to be something that's dynamically linkable but slower if EMACS_MODULE is 1, and to be something that's not dynamically linkable but faster if EMACS_MODULE is 0.