From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:58:49 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <54D9AC29.2020603@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87y4t9m76w.fsf@lifelogs.com> <85k31coixa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <85oapy5kt6.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y4oiiw81.fsf@gnu.org> <838ugdf251.fsf@gnu.org> <54D80098.3020209@cs.ucla.edu> <54D85304.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423551563 1730 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 06:59:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Leake , Emacs development discussions To: =?UTF-8?B?QXVyw6lsaWVuIEFwdGVs?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 07:59:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4ms-00041y-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 07:59:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37938 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4mr-0006Fi-KV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:59:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56302) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4me-0006F4-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:58:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4mZ-00023I-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:58:56 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:58414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL4mZ-00022y-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:58:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51B3A6005C; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xCuLI37-3Pyy; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-173-55-11-52.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.55.11.52]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C52DA60042; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182784 Archived-At: Aur=C3=A9lien Aptel wrote: > Since it's hard to keep up with what core defines, adding a prefix > prevents the clash. Ah, OK, that explains things. Though this raises a related issue: as I understand it currently modules = must=20 never refer to any Qxxx symbols (other than Qnil), since these symbols ma= y have=20 different values in different Emacs implementations. And this includes a= ny=20 macros or inline functions the modules may invoke. For example, a module= must=20 never call 'functionp', since 'functionp' is an inline function that refe= rs to Qt. This is something that needs to be fixed, surely. And once we have a fix= for=20 it, perhaps the fix will mean that we don't need that "M" prefix.