From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 20:54:28 -0800 Message-ID: <54B89984.60604@dancol.org> References: <54B1B97E.9070204@gmail.com> <87fvbhk4ha.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B456C8.6010506@gmail.com> <8761cbhvhb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B5AA10.7080606@gmail.com> <54B6F8EF.7020401@gmail.com> <54B8326B.90804@gmail.com> <54B889CC.9030401@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FukXURTLMT7iIQTATvnWPr4waGXNqoe3R" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421384101 30369 80.91.229.3 (16 Jan 2015 04:55:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jcb62281@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 16 05:54:59 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YByvx-0001tR-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 05:54:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YByvx-0004Yj-6T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:54:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YByvj-0004YT-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YByvi-0003Xo-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:47681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YByvi-0003WD-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:54:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=jmSQJr/sGgp05xoFTmF1D7TYKDQnh2gCjiw8Bud86/s=; b=jOk3MFzgCnJmsabraFXw2qfRtCUCRn8HR0QbkP+SFnGJYPA0t1p3rj8jptVVM7TefgBYql/Is+KadE0Z/KlNgek+1QWVwHGJPhARpI0ye5lh8O0xC1RZwZWt9UZEc9iw6bANgiH0HE7xzkx2nAlxJ3e4W+KyfWw4LukNAf6we8tx4FKWQf2o7MA+q29dofdU0/PdV6CORzAYbWr1SZtZXShuBC8Dmi7xESMm1gXQNnoX4k6arL4JUtMgVsTum0xKQW2UogK5sYz8O/HpDo/DTOVPNj2G4EbloHNwKEwwDRBOaEm+xxK0sE/ggh8T/m8IikNOPRVlhr9CVmbt4KXJuw==; Original-Received: from [2620:10d:c081:1101:2ab2:bdff:fe1c:db58] by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YByvb-0004s8-FQ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 20:54:35 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: <54B889CC.9030401@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181321 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FukXURTLMT7iIQTATvnWPr4waGXNqoe3R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/15/2015 07:47 PM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: > Richard Stallman wrote: >> The situation with Emacs will be the same as it is with GCC now: >> plug-ins have to be GPL. >> =20 >=20 >=20 > This illuminates the central question at hand: if an Emacs plugin is > GPL, and provides access to internals of GCC, which is also GPL, can > nonfree software use that Emacs plugin? >=20 > I think that the answer to this question is "no", and that this provide= s > a means to export GCC's AST to Emacs without opening the AST to nonfree= > software. That doesn't address Richard's concern. I can write some elisp to export the AST to my proprietary compiler. --FukXURTLMT7iIQTATvnWPr4waGXNqoe3R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUuJmEAAoJEN4WImmbpWBlZ44P/jFBLe93hnALJrjF5i9OGE2q nBakgTIj3XmPHFNcdPlStTPKVk8GT0BXbQ4Ssdmm6QqrOp3eBJEM7orfO2dryour HG7BBMwbBKdRy4i7NT2ajXoitgYSF9aPGVaqFj2AIDy2p833l3b6hy2MAglzjtEQ wSJcgw4V8Si6iWQPs2Jr9Fo6iMBBXQXGpYj7NqCMsrNaD44Rf+bUSfT7i0O0Y5+8 U72cL7jdMgO2Cy6Z9vfbCx7QHF7O/EBAug/BJHmk/SEBy5TsigpPObRkA811bpq1 +by1r+IqDIhQnC4T84czUb7fI2UhkJCMNwy3X3I37dRG2rm4UnjODR1wbPsGKpZo 74zyvjDAo7C2tlzxhj6WGwkYcB1xVlaQnHHdBUdxNfsBQbhCDlUgmtrA4jVa9xRS i/BRMIMYH53MWny37/9TPMkxoozbdrWMXkFuSIlbx8/51zWU1DGD/FvAW78jPEc9 KaIlmegWWiwcgRJQgY4Z0fd+dBVJWTPen4AWJuAWHmbzLEvSACtOyVIkRENXaNwz FI0/hR+IzBk/f2cgs3ccdZtcoFTabBjD/sRzSOwLAuV+sFA/nP4FVWTMoCBBBavI 9llpONUwOqvJnZRRCLqp64ftXzw3KzBXVuWcmkZ6a3T/hAhUBnpUThUzLcJWaywU EyftYYqtbvTaEzsV1gqF =OEnU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FukXURTLMT7iIQTATvnWPr4waGXNqoe3R--