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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 2534676 2/2: Simplify setfattr use by assuming GNU make
       [not found] ` <E1Y6E3b-000643-Gf@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
@ 2015-01-02 19:12   ` Glenn Morris
  2015-01-02 21:19     ` Paul Eggert
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2015-01-02 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Paul Eggert

Paul Eggert wrote:

> -	  while test -f bootstrap-emacs$(EXEEXT); do \
> -	    rm -f bootstrap-emacs$(EXEEXT); \
> -	  done; \
> -	  ln emacs$(EXEEXT) bootstrap-emacs$(EXEEXT); \
[...]
> +	ln -f $@ bootstrap-emacs$(EXEEXT)

?
http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18302#11

The autoconf manual says "Don't rely on ln having a -f option."



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* Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 2534676 2/2: Simplify setfattr use by assuming GNU make
  2015-01-02 19:12   ` [Emacs-diffs] master 2534676 2/2: Simplify setfattr use by assuming GNU make Glenn Morris
@ 2015-01-02 21:19     ` Paul Eggert
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Paul Eggert @ 2015-01-02 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Autoconf patches, Emacs development discussions

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On 01/02/2015 11:12 AM, Glenn Morris wrote:
> The autoconf manual says "Don't rely on ln having a -f option."

Although that was good advice in the early 1990s when that part of the 
Autoconf manual was written, the advice has been obsolete for years.  I 
installed the attached patch into Autoconf to fix this (after bumping 
Autoconf's copyright year).  I'm CC:ing this to autoconf-patches.

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From 4774ff5c33d34bb6ad21c06f3c2b54d6e700740e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 13:02:48 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] doc: -f is now portable for cp and ln

This follows up on a comment by Glenn Morris in:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg00011.html
* doc/autoconf.texi (Limitations of Usual Tools):
Remove circa-1990 advice about avoiding cp -f and ln -f.
Although that advice was reasonable for the early 1990s, the -f
option is portable for both cp and ln nowadays.  These options
were standardized in POSIX 1003.2-1992, and pre-POSIX systems such
as SunOS 4 are no longer of practical concern.
---
 doc/autoconf.texi | 10 +++++-----
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/autoconf.texi b/doc/autoconf.texi
index 639cec2..d9e833d 100644
--- a/doc/autoconf.texi
+++ b/doc/autoconf.texi
@@ -18684,9 +18684,7 @@ avoid this problem, omit the trailing slashes.  For example, use
 @samp{cp -R source /tmp/newdir} rather than @samp{cp -R source
 /tmp/newdir/} if @file{/tmp/newdir} does not exist.
 
-@c This is thanks to Ian.
-The ancient SunOS 4 @command{cp} does not support @option{-f}, although
-its @command{mv} does.
+The @option{-f} option is portable nowadays.
 
 @cindex timestamp resolution
 Traditionally, file timestamps had 1-second resolution, and @samp{cp
@@ -19088,9 +19086,11 @@ the workaround is to use @command{join -a1 file1 file2} instead.
 @item @command{ln}
 @c ---------------
 @prindex @command{ln}
+The @option{-f} option is portable nowadays.
+
 @cindex Symbolic links
-Don't rely on @command{ln} having a @option{-f} option.  Symbolic links
-are not available on old systems; use @samp{$(LN_S)} as a portable substitute.
+Symbolic links are not available on some systems; use @samp{$(LN_S)} as
+a portable substitute.
 
 For versions of the DJGPP before 2.04,
 @command{ln} emulates symbolic links
-- 
2.1.0


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