From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:30:58 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <54877822.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <jwvh9x8tnor.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <jwvh9x6ooy3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <m3sigoxz4s.fsf@stories.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418164287 10122 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 22:31:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 22:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 23:31:20 2014 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1XyTJP-0007Fr-R8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 23:31:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42756 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1XyTJP-0002g2-E2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:31:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>) id 1XyTJG-0002fs-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:31:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>) id 1XyTJ8-0006hq-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:31:10 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:55885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>) id 1XyTJ8-0006hi-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92EDA60089; Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:31:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id flhpyzLG3Wny; Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:30:58 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D8EDA60073; Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:30:58 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: <m3sigoxz4s.fsf@stories.gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179608 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/179608> On 12/09/2014 02:00 PM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Texinfo 4 is still available, isn't it? I can't recall whether I > installed it myself or it was just there, but I found Texinfo 5 > unbearable and switched. And that's a problem. The fact that so many core Emacs contributors stick with Texinfo 4 is not only a technical problem (Texinfo 4 doesn't check syntax typos as well, it is still quoting 1970s-style, etc.), it's a marketing problem as we're giving potential contributors the impression that our development process has ossified.