From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:29:48 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5486A4EC.4010603@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418110250 16446 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 07:30:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 07:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 08:30:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyFFq-00008n-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 08:30:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38215 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyFFq-0007UT-69 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyFFJ-0007LJ-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:30:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyFFB-0001CX-TM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:30:09 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:40787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyFF3-00014O-8g; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:29:53 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D716CA6005F; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:29:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nV1rDP7tralZ; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:29:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-177-17-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.177.17.123]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CC83A60052; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:29:49 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179529 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I think I understand why they don't want to fix the processing speed. >>> But we should still push them to provide workarounds. "Separate >>> compilation" would solve this problem >> It might, yes. But that sounds like more work than switching input formats >> would be, > > Why? Are you saying this would require work on our side? Yes, partly. Separate compilation usually requires some extra work on the source code side. > I'd assume > this work would mostly be on the Texinfo-maintainers side. Yes, that sounds plausible. But I doubt whether the work will happen, as separate compilation for Texinfo doesn't sound that easy, and the Texinfo developers don't seem to have a lot of cycles to spare.