From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 02:24:11 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <5482D94B.2070102@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <87tx19rd1b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20141205215138.GF7784@thyrsus.com> <54823617.4000406@cs.ucla.edu> <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417861506 19364 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2014 10:25:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 11:24:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCXp-0000MK-Tk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:24:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53973 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCXp-00066J-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:24:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCXU-000660-Lq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:24:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCXM-00009V-UD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:24:36 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:58576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XxCXE-00007q-Rs; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:24:20 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EE1A60162; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 02:24:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hW1pQuPgjdt8; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 02:24:11 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-71-177-17-123.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.177.17.123]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61870A60018; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 02:24:11 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 In-Reply-To: <83k325195l.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179135 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > 90% of the effort of writing good documentation is not producing markup True, but if we can make the process of writing documentation even 5% mor= e=20 efficient or 5% more inviting, that could well be such a long-term win th= at it's=20 worth the conversion hassle. > if there is some language feature supported by a future Texinfo > that is a must, I will definitely switch to it As I recall, you had another objection to Texinfo 5: it quotes with curly= quotes=20 =E2=80=9Clike this=E2=80=9D, not with ASCII quotes "like this", and you a= re concerned that some=20 older Info readers might be confused by the non-ASCII quotes. Anyway, no matter what the reason for not upgrading, in the meantime we'r= e stuck=20 with old-technology Texinfo, and this is partly why it might be a good id= ea to=20 think about changing.