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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 21:49:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <547C0152.5040408@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvtx1gysdw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier wrote:

> It makes sense to roll those files on a release-number basis rather than
> just size.

That sounds like a good idea.

> What value would stop you from bumping into it, and on which kinds of
> files do you typically bump into it.

It's usually log files.  For example, if I run 'git log >/tmp/log', and then 
visit /tmp/log, that's about 34 MB for Emac.  Likewise for things like strace 
output or for random other text debugging output.

>> When the 10 MB limit was established back in 2003, machines typically
>> had 64 MiB or so of RAM.
>
> Reality check: my 2003-vintage X30 laptop (which I happily use when
> doing presentations) came with 768MB of RAM.

You had bigger machines than I did.  Even my circa-2005 laptop (which I still 
use) has only 512 MB of RAM.  Was the limit tuned for your new laptop back in 
2003?  In that case, perhaps we should warn if the file is larger than 1/64th of 
physical RAM, though this sounds a tad conservative to me.

> the size of human-edited files (the bread-and-butter for Emacs)
> hasn't increased nearly as much.

I mostly run into the problem when viewing files, not editing them, and the 
files I view can get pretty large.  Sometimes I have to give up on Emacs 
entirely and use 'less', which is an annoying switch.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-01  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-14 14:39 Include necessary git tools in the Emacs distribution? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 14:57 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 16:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-11-15 19:28   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 20:04     ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-11-15 20:07       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 20:34         ` Kelvin White
2014-11-15 20:35           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 20:57             ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-11-15 21:45         ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-16  0:01         ` Lennart Borgman
2014-11-18  2:07   ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-11-18  2:15     ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-18 14:45       ` Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages (was: Include necessary git tools in the Emacs distribution?) Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 14:59         ` Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 16:22           ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-11-18 17:10         ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-18 17:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 17:56             ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-18 20:32               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-18 21:12             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 22:05               ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-19 22:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-20  0:15                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-20  2:50                     ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-20  3:15                       ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-20  4:04                         ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-20 20:12                           ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-21  4:25                             ` Kelvin White
2014-11-21  7:57                               ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-19  9:03               ` Bastien
2014-11-19  9:11               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 22:35               ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-30  0:23                 ` Jan D.
2014-11-30  9:12                 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-11-30 16:15                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-11-30 18:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-30 18:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 18:30                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 20:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 21:50                           ` default large-file-warning-threshold (was: Generating the ChangeLog files ...) Paul Eggert
2014-11-30 23:19                             ` default large-file-warning-threshold Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-30 23:22                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 23:31                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-12-01  5:46                                   ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-01 15:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 18:13                                       ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-01 18:19                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 18:24                                           ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-01 20:21                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-01 20:32                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-02  1:17                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-02  5:07                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 19:00                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 17:06                                 ` Achim Gratz
2014-12-01 17:56                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 18:33                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-12-01 19:12                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 19:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:47                                   ` Rasmus
2014-12-01 19:15                             ` default large-file-warning-threshold (was: Generating the ChangeLog files ...) Richard Stallman
2014-12-02  5:15                             ` default large-file-warning-threshold Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01  3:24                         ` Generating the ChangeLog files from the commit messages Stefan Monnier
2014-12-01  3:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01  5:49                           ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2014-12-01  7:45                           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-11-30 16:35                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19  9:02           ` Bastien
2014-11-19  9:38             ` Rasmus
2014-11-19 11:17               ` Bastien
2014-11-19 13:34                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-19 13:50                   ` Bastien
2014-11-19 16:29                 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-19 16:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:52                     ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-19 18:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-20  2:54                         ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-20  9:38                           ` Bastien
2014-11-20  9:33                         ` Bastien
2014-11-20  9:31                   ` Bastien
2014-11-19 16:43             ` David Engster
2014-11-19 22:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 22:51                 ` David Engster
2014-11-21 10:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-21 16:19                     ` David Engster
2014-11-21 16:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-21 17:19                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 17:21                         ` David Engster
2014-11-19 16:54     ` Include necessary git tools in the Emacs distribution? David Engster

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