From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:18:54 +0200 Message-ID: <541BD8DE.1020800@online.de> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20140917202418.240bbd2c@forcix> <541A7D4A.5010509@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411111201 14884 80.91.229.3 (19 Sep 2014 07:20:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jorgen Schaefer , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Ivan Andrus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 19 09:19:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUsTx-000649-5x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:19:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56556 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUsTw-0002U1-AW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 03:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45467) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUsTa-0002On-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 03:19:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUsTS-0006a5-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 03:19:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:62499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUsTJ-0006YV-Ba; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 03:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.32] (brln-4db9d60a.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.214.10]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreue102) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCqZf-1XctD42t5X-009eM2; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:19:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.7.0 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:5k8W70q4jUXHf53SzLamUjveJuPuWskTTIs1W7bNT1r ZGlXA/RwJN+MKXugNkzShbuxcJwPs2HLkqrBhHxMeTD+cq1Wbf l/en/+rSmG+FaVx22eabNuRsameye7T9fpJnb2BYLX6dHGb/Pl WRaEvMZHtA6G8Zu5nKDh7NHtUj5MdiIJFV/gBjqXR2PNnkFPwj lo683Fw1r9MmuBWIKyr4wezp60slaDIc2TVY8x0vftjUg4M5xH D4bM9GSATBHp3ELW427zh1eQd8WwJwpauac+RALROyjvs503Qn A0yCuWtK4K6pCIG1xw92kFTmUxyQ+QFtAhYY90LhgAiDwHcTid bfqIENVZcgLveujUxOz0coemdwovQOW0GG6WZsjNN X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174535 Archived-At: On 19.09.2014 01:19, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That appears to no longer be true (emacs-24 branch): > > rplaca is an alias for `setcar' in `subr.el'. > > (rplaca CELL NEWCAR) > > Set the car of CELL to be NEWCAR. Returns NEWCAR. > > If I recall right, rplaca traditionally returned CELL, not NEWCAR. > Thus, this change seems like an error. > Hi Richard, IIUC this was just an example. Once mentioned a multitude of string-strip functions, used to remove whitespace-characters from beginning or end of string - while missing a canoncial form. Maybe past upcoming release discuss the standard library should pay. Best, Andreas