From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:35:54 +0200 Message-ID: <541A7D4A.5010509@online.de> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20140917202418.240bbd2c@forcix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411022205 17106 80.91.229.3 (18 Sep 2014 06:36:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:36:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 18 08:36:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUVKW-0004uA-Mz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:36:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48732 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUVKW-00029X-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:36:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUVKH-0001sr-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUVK5-0000pI-UR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:36:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.10]:61495) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUVK5-0000oS-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 02:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.32] (brln-4db9cbe9.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.203.233]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreue101) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LpOJJ-1Y0nCk3Vwb-00f7wv; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:36:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.7.0 In-Reply-To: <20140917202418.240bbd2c@forcix> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:As9sYueU1coFtF+l1TAwPuVFuP8CkxM6QmnBd3KhqbR WqGun/cicK8zJ86TskPBwuw9YDB9c2DpljV34kvFNgwHxjNemU 1Bs6jKM6T/5Mcvdkj5Jy62G0W4CC+XqJNYVHeWLEYxfQ7at3KB QHiGwWz3t3KQ2BBWhHJ3UKV3woVOoyQEDg79C6VCrG9dHc1fkm 1d96rYWvPLug4bZTUzg0wx9guzoFhpqyH0zvu+9jW3aJuD6QzL GXCYFMkLfzqAGDcLWE0DN2G424wnD43WckHZNSrAgduPVqmnwT t+WkEmAfRaI+Vhqa0wzhrgA1lG4/QZT5h4D6JWfDoh5GyIqmyd SLjuoOSEVOnzxv8D8k7dtXG8d1JgPO0cjBnU7r16P X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174483 Archived-At: On 17.09.2014 20:24, Jorgen Schaefer wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:03:17 +0200 > Lennart Borgman wrote: [ ... ] > One thing I think would benefit Emacs Lisp as a language a lot would be > a standard library cleanup. An effort to go through the libraries that > come with Emacs, separate them into "standard library" and "extensions > that come with Emacs", and then go through the "standard library", > provide sane names when necessary (like setcar is provided for rplaca) > and deprecating the old ones, or simply deprecate all but one version of > functions with overlapping use (nth or elt, pick one). Finally, add > standard libraries for common functionality that is currently lacking > (see above). > [ ... ] +1