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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174249 Archived-At: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050003050808070305040009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/12/14 10:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >=20 > OTOH, rebase merely moves *trees*; those (and the blobs that they > point to in turn) are not rewritten. No, those are rewritten, too. Rebase just cherry-picks a bunch of commits, and cherry-picking can certainly change blobs. The first sentence of the cherry-pick man page: > Given one or more existing commits, apply the change each one > introduces, recording a new commit for each. -David --------------ms050003050808070305040009 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMYDCC BiQwggUMoAMCAQICAwkFtDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBjDELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNV BAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRl IFNpZ25pbmcxODA2BgNVBAMTL1N0YXJ0Q29tIENsYXNzIDEgUHJpbWFyeSBJbnRlcm1lZGlh dGUgQ2xpZW50IENBMB4XDTE0MDIxODEwNDcxNFoXDTE1MDIxOTEyNTQzNVowQDEbMBkGA1UE AwwSZGF2aWRAcG9ya3JpbmQub3JnMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJkYXZpZEBwb3JrcmluZC5v cmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDkzgZ2USy/IIF69iMaP5dgxFrN n/ppK9+HRpKWsesQ71tTX9+CqObNny15tzbNgORggsM5vVB7EdyNOfwhu2ZUn48MVSKnKnIM 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