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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305474 Archived-At: On 4/19/2023 3:27 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > It might work, too (though I suppose altering this var might be a bit > harder for an average use than changing a new option to t or adding > 'eglot to it). use-package users should have an easy time of it, at least. You can just add ":pin gnu" to your use-package declaration. That said, I think there should be a way to do it from the *Packages* buffer, just like installing a package. > Depends on how complex the fix will be, for the "clear bug" you mention. Yeah, we'll have to see. I'll take a look if/when we agree that this is a solution to the problem.