From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes in frame/window code Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:48:14 +0200 Message-ID: <53CFAF0E.7000509@gmx.at> References: <53CE6A44.1010708@gmx.at> <53CF9597.6090100@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406119731 1753 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2014 12:48:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Dmitry Antipov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 14:48:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X9vyM-0004YE-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:48:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44423 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9vyM-0007vc-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9vyA-0007hs-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9vy1-00009T-PX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:48:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:63461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X9vy1-00009P-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [188.22.43.250] ([188.22.43.250]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSv6D-1Wzmyn2Qnl-00RtXu; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:48:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <53CF9597.6090100@yandex.ru> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hYTaw30hLIntwDHHOxxdq/BUROSOqUIUccAh9vTFNRRTzqn1kOQ 5eho6mVwUbtexT2ZlKfLmRqdBqMJK4czBshjqVBspjlQ29KRtlt2iJ+Hz61M4UQyRP4658U t7WBXbPPwbRJna/lLPpMedZvRdTXvcGKXY86vYhpQqK+P8F78Hpd0k5nXMWYO/PtXFtmNjb C883bt905/OXCYUB8e3sw== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.19 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173095 Archived-At: >> (1) Finish the transition to pixelwise frame/window size handling (for >> example, removing the necessity that fringe-sizes are an integral >> multiple of columns or the remnants of the "extended" scrollbar). >> >> (2) Fix the "toolbar/menubar height is part of the frame text height" >> issue (which the recent change in revision 117561 doesn't). >> >> (3) Make the frame size resilient to menu-/tool-/scrollbar/font/fringes >> changes when it's either maximized/fullscreen or the user generally >> dislikes implied size changes. >> >> (4) Add horizontal scroll bars for the Gtk/Motif/Lucid/Windows builds. >> >> Kindly refrain from substantial frame/window code changes in the next >> few days to make the transition as smooth as possible. And, obviously, >> please try the patch. > > Maintenance/support notice: in general, I think that ~400K patch is just > a bad joke. IMO it's highly desirable to split 1), 2) and 3) in one > patch and apply it first. 4) should go next, and only after a more or > less representative feedback on 1), 2) and 3). I agree with you. But I started to do (4) first and only later added the remaining steps (and a few more). These are heavily interconnected so I don't see a way to safely split them any more. Moreover splitting would take me a month at least and I won't be able to spend so much time on this. martin