unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: fabrice.popineau@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GC and stack marking
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:12:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <537BA92D.50204@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8338g4bd7m.fsf@gnu.org>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1189 bytes --]

On 05/20/2014 09:57 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 09:44:05 -0400
>>
>>> The short version of the question is: is it possible that a Lisp
>>> object which is no longer referenced by anything won't be GC'ed
>>> because it is marked by mark_stack due to some kind of coincidence?
>>
>> Yes, of course, it's what makes a conservative marking conservative.
> 
> I have nothing against conservative, but this failure to GC is too
> spectacular to ignore.
> 
>>> So the huge hash-table gets dumped into the emacs executable, and
>>
>> That's bad luck, indeed.
>>
>>> causes all kinds of trouble in the dumped Emacs.
>>
>> But it shouldn't cause any trouble (other than extra memory use).
> 
> It does, due to all kinds of subtleties.  The result is that the
> large_vectors linked list gets dumped with a pointer to a non-existent
> memory, and the dumped Emacs then crashes on the first GC when it
> tries to traverse that linked list.

Can you elaborate on how that happens? This behavior sounds like a plain
GC bug.


[-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 884 bytes --]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-20 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-19 16:31 GC and stack marking Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-19 18:47 ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-19 19:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-19 19:58     ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-19 20:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-19 20:17         ` Paul Eggert
2014-05-20 16:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-20 16:57   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 17:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-20 19:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 22:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21  2:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21  3:01             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21 15:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 15:57                 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-05-21 16:06                   ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-05-21 16:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 16:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 17:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21 17:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 15:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 16:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-24 12:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 19:12     ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2014-05-20 19:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-20 22:03         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-21  2:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-31  6:31   ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-31 14:24     ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-21 19:31 Barry OReilly
2014-05-21 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-21 20:49   ` Barry OReilly
2014-05-22  2:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22  3:12       ` Daniel Colascione
2014-05-22  5:37         ` David Kastrup
2014-05-22 13:57           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-05-22 15:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-05-22 14:59       ` Barry OReilly
2014-05-22 17:03         ` Eli Zaretskii

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=537BA92D.50204@dancol.org \
    --to=dancol@dancol.org \
    --cc=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=fabrice.popineau@gmail.com \
    --cc=monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).