From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexander Adolf Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296985 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-B9B99241-F719-49B1-8D85-F9AF30A47B56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable elsp would be very close to elisp. Just saying=E2=80=A6 --alex --=20 www.condition-alpha.com / @c_alpha Sent from my iPhone; apologies for brevity and autocorrect weirdness.=20 > On 5. Oct 2022, at 17:08, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> To be fair, eglot does a bit more than just being a LSP client. It >> enables lots of extra fluff. E.g., it popups up a docstring in the >> mini-buffer using eldoc, it highlights broke code using flymake, >> enables completion using company-mode if that is used, etc -- that is >> quite a bit more than just a simple client interface. >=20 > It provides LSP client services to several Emacs features, yes. > Having a client without this glue would be much less useful, because > it would mean we'd need to develop that ourselves. >=20 > Right, my point was mearly that eglot isn't _just_ a client -- so > whatever name is derived from that wouldn't be a good fit, since it > does much more as well. >=20 --Apple-Mail-B9B99241-F719-49B1-8D85-F9AF30A47B56 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCA0cw ggNDMIICpKADAgECAgQhmzKBMAoGCCqGSM49BAMCMIG7MSAwHgYDVQQDDBdDb25kaXRpb24tQUxQ SEEgQ0EgMjAxODFQME4GA1UECgxHQ29uZGl0aW9uLUFMUEhBIERpZ2l0YWwgQnJvYWRjYXN0IFRl Y2hub2xvZ3kgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBBbGV4YW5kZXIgQWRvbGYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMQ8wDQYDVQQH DAZNdW5pY2gxJzAlBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWGGluZm9AY29uZGl0aW9uLWFscGhhLmNvbTAeFw0xOTEx MDYxNzU0NDRaFw0yMDExMDUxNzU0NDRaMFsxGDAWBgNVBAMMD0FsZXhhbmRlciBBZG9sZjELMAkG A1UEBhMCREUxMjAwBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWI2FsZXhhbmRlci5hZG9sZkBjb25kaXRpb24tYWxwaGEu Y29tMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA9IELQpXk+ymqHnYKq+Ts50ixgBIj KdrO2AsAN1ft4/3OUwkkP0Myvx40aR0PlXaKYWTnGaXEUH13cKTtfFxW44VTqwyKv40r6UaRrhkq 8IGjFBpjVLmBL5j28VePsamP3XjjFYaIyqzrsfWBa10QRBK/U+fMg9MbiZ/4td8RRSIta40ic787 x4edPCX2GkVXZecz52d7nOWkeaUWUPMxvKDZJBIVZQUBHinGuF33rAtdLoBciXP0SBSZ1xGGq6Hq K/4rr3VecSceeEalbrKg6Jd+23LCBUm8ympgQ3ZQXYH9QAsFkdoEUQvJ9MKfdfgR3iF1etuzl4xl p5blP5qq7wIDAQABoyowKDAOBgNVHQ8BAf8EBAMCBaAwFgYDVR0lAQH/BAwwCgYIKwYBBQUHAwQw CgYIKoZIzj0EAwIDgYwAMIGIAkIBvdVddzvc//bPHF+dqGGDNZD7qbhrLMzey6EnAVV9Sj1O+5t1 Ly3sJ3DHzXtvBJW5VimawOL89WJ9XK9ILdEp6gUCQgF+rTWRvHv3xMeUnNMBXpsMm5sO9D0UugTu 4ZK37ryqycItRpafDnj1egKGuaBDSUy0bGwcDPi5Pfnpce+mKSXL8DGCBA8wggQLAgEBMIHEMIG7 MSAwHgYDVQQDDBdDb25kaXRpb24tQUxQSEEgQ0EgMjAxODFQME4GA1UECgxHQ29uZGl0aW9uLUFM UEhBIERpZ2l0YWwgQnJvYWRjYXN0IFRlY2hub2xvZ3kgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBBbGV4YW5kZXIgQWRv bGYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMQ8wDQYDVQQHDAZNdW5pY2gxJzAlBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWGGluZm9AY29u ZGl0aW9uLWFscGhhLmNvbQIEIZsygTANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFAKCCAhswGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsG CSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMjIxMDA1MTU1NTU1WjAvBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxIgQg yjiCDZfEdZP3DexK3OQXZACTR3YWPIR2lJhNiJCryHswgdUGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDGBxzCBxDCBuzEg MB4GA1UEAwwXQ29uZGl0aW9uLUFMUEhBIENBIDIwMTgxUDBOBgNVBAoMR0NvbmRpdGlvbi1BTFBI QSBEaWdpdGFsIEJyb2FkY2FzdCBUZWNobm9sb2d5IENvbnN1bHRpbmcgQWxleGFuZGVyIEFkb2xm MQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEPMA0GA1UEBwwGTXVuaWNoMScwJQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhhpbmZvQGNvbmRp dGlvbi1hbHBoYS5jb20CBCGbMoEwgdcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMYHHoIHEMIG7MSAwHgYDVQQDDBdD b25kaXRpb24tQUxQSEEgQ0EgMjAxODFQME4GA1UECgxHQ29uZGl0aW9uLUFMUEhBIERpZ2l0YWwg QnJvYWRjYXN0IFRlY2hub2xvZ3kgQ29uc3VsdGluZyBBbGV4YW5kZXIgQWRvbGYxCzAJBgNVBAYT AkRFMQ8wDQYDVQQHDAZNdW5pY2gxJzAlBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWGGluZm9AY29uZGl0aW9uLWFscGhh LmNvbQIEIZsygTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAASCAQDjdqttaoXKnI/fkHiTlMIjeRfrSl0o6AsxVkgm y1+rM5mGZ2za658CtXj8DzfukaM/3JGX3CrWheOuOsaMUDzRb711wwSRI4W6mS3a5Q0A3UQVcdSB Ry7FMmtfmmemdqbm7jlHcaxyzTVuP2VyTP0uVoWqYKx+yoRm0xvJrDOAw48OXnaQcDBAXIJcZIHk c+Z0qAlqn38/FuJYvofetkw3N7L6Z0nf2xhqsORM7a9yyDMfMDuq5cFI/xWl+1GP4tVO4fi+gTGi NQ/fYQnO4amCCJzlFA4+giPkQwtQai12wLloxOhbajc6J5XPBO1rF+lX9DEGaP4E16yQDoujczUg AAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-B9B99241-F719-49B1-8D85-F9AF30A47B56--