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Turnbull" , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup , Michal Nazarewicz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 19:47:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WTbok-0003aj-7o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 19:47:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTboj-0003cb-J7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTboa-0003cK-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTboU-0004Pw-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:49492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WTboG-0004Ia-Ce; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:47:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=cuqzzXHJ/LoLo9Q7tga7cuPygvDC0a3e2pc2wbisIs8=; b=QlDpY1eOIpJ/QEIpKDGZdZbaLEAe5at/iGCWUPGlqMDfGhC465rSTc8pPGgs3+a4ZW79OJLZ2v/w0OZ1TJj+y8EkAquwQIEO0FZj+GvcWs2r39nc0NIYtksWhLXTyQJsJx9favCFPVk7YjGkNXlFD7aDtTCjf60KzS/S9HjzqB8ju/YKIjBEZ/nF7EkjTS/xtkXx4KamASkDNgynDVpMtK0c/kTwGtg2SIUHhwUgKHn4rJuc/PJT7z0qQnFApHm7HeZ4GYBg5BX0oU06Bwclt+jJ5C19zLD7zPpc4hPUIokBdy1tRGTcD6UR20MNl+kqAsNzWdiRjTE/E6kpz66W5g==; Original-Received: from 24-104-73-2-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([24.104.73.2] helo=[10.10.5.189]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WTboE-0007bU-Uq; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:47:18 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <8761mys077.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171090 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GLhucGRAvuTJE3qtIWSB33tmE2iRqBH1n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/28/2014 10:27 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> So here are some ideas that would reduce the cost of a first patch: >> - Allow the first 100 patches without a CA. >> - Allow electronically-signed CA. >> - Allow electronically-signed CA for the first 100 patches, and then >> require dead-tree CA. >> - Allow multi-project CAs (perhaps a form with a list of check-boxes).= >> >> A lawyer will tell you[1] that it increases risk and may make >> enforcement harder, but your job is not to do whatever lawyers tell >> you, >=20 > Do you even understand that the GPL is a _legal_ tool and works through= > legal processes? >=20 > It's like telling a bank "your job is not to do whatever security > experts tell you but what makes your customers happy" with regard to > electronic banking. I arrange financial transactions all the time without touching a single bit of paper. Electronic signatures have become much more prevalent over the past few years. Maybe it's time to revisit this specific issue. 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