From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Converted git repository available for review Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:33 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <532D057D.9050305@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20140321200042.236863805FB@snark.thyrsus.com> <532CE0B7.3010309@cs.ucla.edu> <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395459467 24296 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 03:37:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 04:37:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCks-0004Lk-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:37:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55580 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCkr-0005GA-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCkh-0005Fo-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCka-0001QM-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:33657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRCkZ-0001PM-Qw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777BC39E8013; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZJt9f37wNmIi; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-108-0-233-62.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.0.233.62]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCB7639E8008; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <20140322030017.GA29313@thyrsus.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170757 Archived-At: Eric S. Raymond wrote: > What I've > done is treat the Bazaar ignore files as authoritative for those > revisions during which Bazaar was in use, ignoring .gitignores during > that period. The other major possibility would be to simply remove > .bzrignores where .gitignore files exist. Sorry, I'm not really following all that, as I haven't read the lift script. Still, it puzzles me that the result is a .gitignore that has the wrong data in it, in the sense that it has an arch tag, something that is clearly wrong since we went through and removed those. If we're generating .gitignore files from .bzrignore files, and if the .bzrignore file just before the bzr-to-git transition lacks an arch tag, why would the .gitignore file after the transition have it? And if we're using some other process to generate the .gitignore file, then how did it manage to keep the arch tags even though we removed them? How about if we fix the .bzrignore and .gitignore files to agree now, by hand, so that this part of the bzr-to-git transition is a no-op? > But how much do we care about fewer than 108 overlong lines, really? > I'm not even sure your small effort would be really justified, let > alone my larger one. I know some people care about readable ChangeLog entries. We edit them even years after they were written to fix typos, for example. It's worth the small effort, though not the larger one. I wrote earlier that these changes could be made to the bzr trunk now, but since they're so small and niggling we might as well make them to the emacs-24 branch.