From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:04:51 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <52F139D3.3030401@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87ha8f3jt1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87wqhbdnwc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <52F114E7.9000805@cs.ucla.edu> <87iosuenjq.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391540712 17221 80.91.229.3 (4 Feb 2014 19:05:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:05:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 04 20:05:18 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WAlJ6-00032D-SU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 20:05:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54288 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAlJ6-0008KT-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:05:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38713) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAlIv-0008G1-5j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:05:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAlIn-00080C-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:05:04 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:50895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAlIm-0007zp-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:04:57 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DBEA60001 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:04:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vpA5J-vXjjlC for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:04:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D99FC39E8012 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:04:54 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <87iosuenjq.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169392 Archived-At: On 02/04/2014 10:32 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > PE> Using the GnuTLS API would remove Stefan's objection to the change, > PE> no? Emacs already depends on the GnuTLS API. > > No, sadly, because it's new C glue code and his goal is to remove such. As I understand it his objection is to adding dependencies on new libraries, not to more-effectively using libraries that Emacs already depends on. For example, he didn't object to adding internal-default-process-filter or to bool-vector-count-population, even though these functions both involved new C glue code.