From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] About the :distant-foreground face attribute Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:03:29 -0800 Message-ID: <52D6F7A1.80707@dancol.org> References: <87bnzo9cja.fsf@gnu.org> <52D3E689.6050902@dancol.org> <8E16225F-53EF-498A-AB35-66EB9B33B859@swipnet.se> <52D43360.6050605@dancol.org> <9BD01B88-AF13-44DD-8DBE-4598BAC136DD@swipnet.se> <52D45C73.6090906@dancol.org> <52D4EBA9.8050802@swipnet.se> <52D4F2C2.8080800@dancol.org> <52D504A7.80104@swipnet.se> <52D514FF.7010404@dancol.org> <52D52312.6070106@swipnet.se> <52D58632.3010106@dancol.org> <381DEBDC-71D8-4FAC-BA55-897FEC73A2FC@swipnet.se> <52D5A072.5010508@dancol.org> <064CFFB5-6E50-40D5-B2CB-2BECC656D93F@swipnet.se> <83txd545n7.fsf@gnu.org> <83fvop4265.fsf@gnu.org> <837ga13zh2.fsf@gnu.org> <8338kp3w0g.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqi12d3s.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389819830 24380 80.91.229.3 (15 Jan 2014 21:03:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 21:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, cyd@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Josh Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 15 22:03:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Xcw-0008Pe-5J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:03:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57170 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Xcv-0004vZ-HJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:03:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57243) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Xcp-0004vE-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:03:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Xcl-0004yh-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:03:47 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:34747) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Xcc-0004xL-Mj; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:03:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=RJQbwr4iJ4Pxn73eZ2b9qAy/Sm5h7RDDBUQ6lqsh9K8=; b=TfEQNsjOxet9FXQrJR0NL1kOhAZSZ7lfzyMDXdnVIDajAm0PxAqLUg8tDeof6d97j/v8iCLgEoZsgbU2UbEH1HbPIUYStHkxA+4vB8TAOTGQvF/SwVfihMs/TBGfVTX2xdFEXgZtqkecrxx7Ags4N3//gLGEA8YgfNORcYY94Bspfn6ihSjAx1Whl5ZSWCbGAvKzLw52U0JXvJbg6Zs0txVwBIwEKj/szJOQNTShFUmWJPfdTMKx4TgpPso5TpG4zwyUofe4Yu7eYINQWQLlpe4D5f9ZYY9an+9c2NAMVvO/TqsGnaQcyPjHPwgFYl1Hb43R2aOXJT5hmj+xUcszFA==; Original-Received: from c-67-161-114-125.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([67.161.114.125] helo=[192.168.1.50]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W3XcZ-0006CI-I1; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:03:31 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <83wqi12d3s.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168496 Archived-At: On 01/15/2014 12:40 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Josh >> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:05:05 -0800 >> Cc: Stefan Monnier , Jan Djärv , >> Daniel Colascione , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel >> >> Though this does seem likely, it might be wise to adopt a less >> specific name for this attribute now in case other appropriate uses >> of this adjustment mechanism later come to light. If we were to >> use a name like :attribute-filters or :attribute-adjusters we'd retain >> flexibility for the future even though we might only support >> adjusting foreground color initially (or indeed ever). > > It has been a long tradition of Emacs not to generalize before there's > a clear and present need to. Sure. The problem with :adjust-colors or some other specific name, though, is what happens to ordering if we introduce other kinds of filters. If we have :adjust-colors and some hypothetical :adjust-foo, the order in which the adjustments are made becomes unclear. If we have a single list of filters, ordering is natural. Also, can we please include "post-" in the name of the attribute? I want to emphasize that the filtering happens *after* face merging.