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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Josh <josh@foxtail.org>
Cc: Brian Jenkins <brian@brianjenkins.org>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar@batsov.com>,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] frame.c: focus hooks
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:54:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52D26662.4050508@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANdFEAFKPWwETi0gppcEHQW-PU0k9hymrkjs4=BcfjV5yf-3qg@mail.gmail.com>

 > I originally interpreted your mention of it as additional evidence that
 > deciding whether or not to call a new select-window-hook from
 > Fselect_window based on its NORECORD argument would be a
 > reasonable approach.  It sounds like I misunderstood, and that you
 > were suggesting simply using the existing b-l-u-h for code that should
 > run when the selected window changes non-ephemerally.  Is that right?

Both interpretations are valid:

(1) The first interpretation means (implicitly) that we could replace
     the call to `buffer-list-update-hook' by calling instead something
     we could name `record-buffer-hook'.

(2) The second interpretation means that your function would have to
     filter the calls of `buffer-list-update-hook' appropriately.

 > As an experiment, I just evaluated this form with `eval-expression':
 >
 >   (progn
 >     (setq bluh-hist nil)
 >     (add-hook 'buffer-list-update-hook
 >               (lambda (&rest args)
 >                 (push (format "%s: %s" (buffer-name) args)
 >                       bluh-hist))))
 >
 > A few seconds later bluh-hist had grown to contain several hundred
 > elements, even though I did not interact with Emacs at all during the
 > interim.  All of my open buffers appear to be represented in that list,
 > including ERC buffers, source code buffers, *scratch*, *Backtrace*,
 > etc.  I have not yet tried this experiment with -q/-Q so it's possible
 > this behavior is being caused by some of my own code or a library,
 > but if this expected behavior then b-l-u-h doesn't seem well-suited
 > to the problem I'd like to solve.

You didn't explain _what_ you want to solve.  Adding the name of the
current buffer whenever a hook is run doesn't sound very reasonable to
me.

Consider the following construct:

(defvar my-window nil)

(defun foo ()
   (unless (eq (selected-window) my-window)
     (setq my-window (selected-window))
     (ding)))

(add-hook 'buffer-list-update-hook 'foo)

Here it beeps whenever the selected window visibly changes.  What
more/less do you want/need?  If you give me an example where you cannot
apply (2), that is, filter the changes of which window is selected from
the `buffer-list-update-hook'-run function we can always add a new hook
as sketched in (1) above.  But obviously not adding a new hook would be
the cheaper solution.

martin



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-12  9:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-17 17:50 [PATCH] frame.c: focus hooks Brian Jenkins
2013-11-17 18:29 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-17 22:25   ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-17 22:33     ` Drew Adams
2013-11-18 13:24       ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-18 14:53         ` Drew Adams
2013-11-19  0:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-19  8:26         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-19 14:10           ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-20  3:10             ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-18  8:20     ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-18 13:32   ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <CAM9Zgm18uL7+PJ+60NjZqtjZJ6tUV77xUbFhXh7UPwqs==1=hg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-18 14:20       ` Fwd: " Bozhidar Batsov
2013-11-18 14:23     ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-18 18:44   ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-18 19:49     ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-19  6:02       ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-19 18:14         ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-19 18:53           ` Drew Adams
2013-11-20  0:52             ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-19 23:42           ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-20  0:52             ` Josh
2013-11-20  3:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-20  3:36                 ` Josh
2013-11-20  7:34                   ` martin rudalics
2014-01-09 17:01                     ` Josh
2014-01-11 10:25                       ` martin rudalics
2014-01-11 19:05                         ` Josh
2014-01-12  9:54                           ` martin rudalics [this message]
2014-01-14 17:30                             ` Josh
2014-01-14 18:10                               ` martin rudalics
2014-01-10 17:31                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-11 19:06                     ` Josh
2013-11-20  0:53             ` Brian Jenkins
2013-11-20  7:46               ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-11-17 19:28 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-17 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-18  4:11 ` Leo Liu
     [not found]   ` <CADTx1Oy5pUmb9sPU6jm0yt1hJtvgJmfDtZQpeFakmHknhEXE=A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-18 13:33     ` Fwd: " Brian Jenkins

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