From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jarek Czekalski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs freezes - how to troubleshoot, build with assertions Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:22:21 +0100 Message-ID: <52750A9D.60706@poczta.onet.pl> References: <5274EE7F.6050508@poczta.onet.pl> <83txfv9d92.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383402101 21654 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2013 14:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:21:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 15:21:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcc5C-0007Pz-9K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:21:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42163 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcc5B-0006ax-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:21:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcc54-0006as-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:21:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcc4z-0004g7-9W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:21:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpo11.poczta.onet.pl ([213.180.142.142]:47227) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcc4y-0004dQ-V1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 10:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.17.5] (cj.e-siemianowice.pl [95.215.234.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl) by smtp.poczta.onet.pl (Onet) with ESMTPSA id 3dBjBL35lDz9v95W for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:21:29 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=poczta.onet.pl; s=2011; t=1383402090; bh=rYVBnDSF/5kXHj+EMvQKuI/U7pZSofUaGkKK9pRA6nI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C4AAdyKRj+Al8O7TxA3MTzv9XX0PUbC4m1D00huwAOnNIg7+rc2SYfVdUSibFKfFf 4tqcAhCrGfe3kKhGiqpb35xTJv2su0ca3gvZa+FRbiMbShNoc3wleNURo6TEGFFI4O 48zs+PHQiuK2+oa+8P8uUTDfYtctGbrmLVvAHLBw= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: <83txfv9d92.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 213.180.142.142 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164863 Archived-At: W dniu 11/02/2013 01:52 PM, Eli Zaretskii pisze: > That is always the preferred way, when you are running the development > code. Please tell me how to do it. Can't find it in the files you pointed out. > Is the above the starting point you were looking for? If not, please > elaborate about what would you like to find as a starting point. There are several places which a new developer should visit. Some I know (you told me about them today) are these: 1. Info "Sending patches" 2. etc directory I would like these places to be mentioned in a development wiki. The wiki could be placed (or at list linked to) at savannah, as savannah is the place linked to directly from gnu.org/software/emacs. If someone complains about missing info, it would be added to wiki. Soon wiki becomes a good starting point. The time required to build it is like half an hour. For example I started to gather some info here: https://sourceforge.net/p/emacspeakwin/wiki/Development%20Information/ In simplest case this wiki page may be renamed to "Emacs developer's guide" and linked from savannah as "See also Emacs Developer's Guide". Jarek