From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APL mode Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:48:21 +0100 Message-ID: <526C0065.8060001@harpegolden.net> References: <2556707.G5KkrEK5zp@descartes> <2175241.EV4ttzPlpJ@descartes> <52603276.70404@harpegolden.net> <526B9B04.3080404@t-online.de> <526BE288.90601@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382809719 27049 80.91.229.3 (26 Oct 2013 17:48:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juergen Sauermann , emacs-devel To: Rustom Mody Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 26 19:48:43 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7yc-0000bY-2v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:48:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35515 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7yb-0002as-Nc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7yS-0002ab-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:48:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7yK-0007eb-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:48:32 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:53438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7yK-0007eV-Kv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:48:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.198.55.19] (87-198-55-19.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.55.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA 4" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A77F3C04C; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:48:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130922 Icedove/17.0.9 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 65.99.215.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164565 Archived-At: On 26/10/13 17:48, Rustom Mody wrote: > Hey David you're a whiz! hah, well, thanks. I'm really not when it comes to xkb in particular=20 though, I rapidly devolve to trial-and-error. > Some problems are there: > in this mode now Alt-x gives me: > M-=E2=8A=83 is undefined > [x maps to =E2=8A=83 !!] Yes, I think you really want -option "grp:switch" Then (I think) you'll have to hold down RAlt to type the apl character=20 (more like a traditional apl keyboard really), but you can still just=20 hit M-x with LAlt-x > > More important I cant seem to find a '3rd level' -- note the standard > apl layout needs upto 4 characters from a key. ie in addition to the > usual ASCII and upcase ASCII there could be two more > You just selected a pretty basic one I think, try e.g. setxkbmap -layout "us,apl(sax)" -option "grp:switch" Then try ralt+letter vs. ralt+shift+letter... `1234567890-=3D qwertyuiop[] asdfghjkl;'\ zxcvbnm,./ ~@#$%^&*()_+ QWERTYUIOP{} ASDFGHJKL:"| >ZXCVBNM<>? =E2=8B=84=C2=A8=C2=AF<=E2=89=A4=3D=E2=89=A5>=E2=89=A0=E2=88=A8=E2=88=A7=C3= =97=C3=B7 ?=E2=8D=B5=E2=88=8A=E2=8D=B4~=E2=86=91=E2=86=93=E2=8D=B3=E2=97=8B*=E2=86=90= =E2=86=92 =E2=8D=BA=E2=8C=88=E2=8C=8A_=E2=88=87=E2=88=86=E2=88=98'=E2=8E=95=E2=8A=A2= =E2=8A=A3=E2=8D=9D <=E2=8A=82=E2=8A=83=E2=88=A9=E2=88=AA=E2=8A=A5=E2=8A=A4|=E2=8D=9E=E2=8D=8E= =E2=8D=95 =E2=8B=84=C2=A1=C2=AF<=C2=A2=3D=E2=89=A5>=E2=8D=82=E2=8D=B1=E2=8D=B2=E2=89= =A1=E2=8C=B9 =C2=BF=E2=8C=BD=E2=8D=B7=E2=8D=B4=E2=8D=89=E2=86=91=E2=86=93=E2=8D=B8=E2=8D= =A5=E2=8D=9F=E2=86=90=E2=86=92 =E2=8A=96=E2=8C=88=E2=8C=8A=E2=8D=AB=E2=8D=92=E2=8D=8B=E2=8D=A4=E2=8C=BB=E2= =8D=9E=E2=8A=A2=E2=8A=A3=E2=8D=80 >=E2=8A=82=E2=8A=83=E2=8D=9D=E2=88=AA=E2=8D=8E=E2=8D=95=E2=8C=B6=E2=8D=AA= =E2=8D=99=E2=8C=BF