From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default behaviour of RET. Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:12:49 -0700 Message-ID: <5265A6E1.90405@dancol.org> References: > <8361sqli02.fsf@gnu.org>> <1730ebf3-db44-498c-b2a9-4d288d83a946@default> <87k3h6xuen.fsf@yandex.ru> <1878e4fa-50f2-4655-a4ff-30d1db708ee8@default> <5D2595BD-AC11-4FB6-B363-31EBE28A0AE0@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382393588 7893 80.91.229.3 (21 Oct 2013 22:13:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Dmitry Gutov , acm@muc.de, Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams To: chad , "emacs-devel@gnu.org devel" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 22 00:13:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VYNiq-0007hY-2R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:13:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42035 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYNip-0007mW-Dt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYNil-0007mQ-Ja for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYNik-0002jc-Ot for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:59204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYNik-0002j8-ED; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:13:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=8Ft7tf9VkuyybIUMBc82TzzeE/Qi6bjhZGdpx+rA6Qs=; b=jEvQOOh2jykVcJYeXGLCSgn08c/feBBSe0zHx6HAIUj/ZI1I2k8omAZ0U46ziFOM8sHmPrDtaHkeGj8fUJDPP1BplrEubS3spGkrryE8H5N1R7mhc+CKf4Kz0g01I/9FLEzAqYGVCtcffZefwP44Lav+l54JG0DxVcJe4HWDI0LF0qRDFvP/CO+GhrbF17tCBMPBvKXiNoULGJ8NyBWszPWBDKPmj6RxBP2/kFh9GxigXKsJo9oKoKu8Cr09hw58JzkLjs3WmB2isSUdayRBfirn6j6zo6RomuSuH2MMQtMb/ohsptu6DJM5cfNXtVjrXAjm8NBNbJChwy/5ExIEsg==; Original-Received: from [2620:0:1cfe:26:1dff:e7a1:9fe4:ca3a] (helo=dcolascione-mbp.local) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VYNiZ-0003DR-VO; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:12:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 In-Reply-To: <5D2595BD-AC11-4FB6-B363-31EBE28A0AE0@mit.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164439 Archived-At: On 10/21/13 3:03 PM, chad wrote: > If there's a vote to be made, I have helped hundreds of users (mostly > MIT students) who wanted RET to do newline-and-indent by default > in programming modes. It's easy enough to change if it's not the > default, but I certainly think it's a better default. I agree. It's not by coincidence that every other popular editing environment indents on RET. Why would you _want_ to insert a new line and not indent it? While we're at it, can we bind C-l and C-o to more generally useful commands?