From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop-down menus, popup menus, and popup dialogs supported on TTYs Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:46:23 +0100 Message-ID: <5255966F.9030409@harpegolden.net> References: <831u3vsjrf.fsf@gnu.org> <20131009.133242.7368376887673130.yamato@redhat.com> <83ob6yqu5k.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381340810 19831 80.91.229.3 (9 Oct 2013 17:46:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Masatake YAMATO , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 09 19:46:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VTxqW-0005dJ-Ob for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 19:46:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43077 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTxqW-0004no-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTxqM-0004nO-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTxqE-00020K-Uk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:46:42 -0400 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:47758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTxq7-0001yP-4O; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [87.198.55.19] (87-198-55-19.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.55.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA 4" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 682CD3C03A; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:46:25 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130922 Icedove/17.0.9 In-Reply-To: <83ob6yqu5k.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 65.99.215.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164041 Archived-At: On 09/10/13 17:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Hmm... do people really want to have menus when the menu bar is turned > off? I thought they disable the menu bar because they don't want any > menus at all. > > But if this is what people want, I don't mind. > > Opinions? > I never use it personally, but on emacs 24.3 under x11 at least, F10 - as bound by default to menu-bar-open - does still open the global menu even when menu-bar-mode is off (though it does use a popup rather than top-menu-bar appearance). It might therefore be considered consistent for it to still open the menu on the terminal too? So long as F10 can still be rebound to something else entirely anyway, it seems okay...