From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:41:50 +0200 Message-ID: <52400CDE.8020007@online.de> References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87k3i8vj93.fsf@yandex.ru> <83bo3kk6hh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh8gzee5.fsf@yandex.ru> <871u4go1bp.fsf@gmail.com> <523FD9B2.9030304@online.de> <834n9cj9s3.fsf@gnu.org> <523FEE11.3050703@online.de> <83zjr4hrcg.fsf@gnu.org> <52400942.9040902@online.de> <83vc1rj35a.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379929200 12906 80.91.229.3 (23 Sep 2013 09:40:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 23 11:40:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2cc-0000NY-Fb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:40:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39324 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2cc-0003GW-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40704) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2cT-0003GF-OR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:39:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2cO-0004nY-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:61946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO2cI-0004mi-DO; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:39:42 -0400 Original-Received: from purzel.sitgens (brln-4dba5cf6.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.92.246]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0La2aD-1W9m2S0l3t-00mNYB; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:39:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: <83vc1rj35a.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:X/AePTua6X8fVBYxEz9Y3QQSOCsN6khXcXi1vrpDXCA MFJGLUjHQyM7RV6/zfCrKi5SjzUMQN8SidtFim61xea5OcEBVg g3HJsFj6j12ldmuOHIszJmad8ayPKDmD9uzKmfdhiIAxKHMqwK Bg4u0BVKMgtxYTcKyhi1XduCrFb2KkzhVQ6D61XGzVDhtgPpzw O6FluCIyt6jPpUl9trKeJFhZEe/I/VKgLUk6k2CG+gvIE6tKGp HAshsNZ/F4ZHSmlQxJiapaz1wzUsd0vrUFAoQc0EeHvYXPJFO7 uFZNOKuz6ivzHTjFMazW8/3XPaYb4aXMLJuQ4qaUlDbbi49qOW kNSNqOSf0fyY3w/Vf5vY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.187 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163573 Archived-At: Am 23.09.2013 11:30, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:26:26 +0200 >> From: Andreas Röhler >> CC: Eli Zaretskii >> >> Am 23.09.2013 10:31, schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> [ ... ] >>> >>>> Next screen tells about C-p, C-n >>> >>> It tells about arrow keys before it tells about C-n and C-p. >> >> For which reason it talks about arrow keys in such preeminent position? > > To satisfy complaints like yours. > Glad to know you can do better. Have a nice day!