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([2a02:a03f:58ad:c200:62c:93d2:1964:ca7c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i25sm11385610wml.43.2020.05.08.01.26.19 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2020 01:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: fr Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42b; envelope-from=colinetnathan98@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 08 May 2020 06:25:35 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249256 Archived-At: Hello, I read on the mailing list that you're looking for a way to make Emacs popular again. I thought I could share my idea. I started using emacs a year ago and when I started everything was really confusing, what is a frame, what is a buffer, how to install packages, what are major and minor modes, etc.. I wanted to give up but then I saw a 1 hour talk about Emacs that shows how powerful it is. Then I was hooked. Unfortunately the sound was no good at all and it was way too long. I think it could be really benefic for emacs to have a 5-10 minutes video that would present Emacs not as an old obscure porgram but as an amazing fresh looking tool that drastically improves efficiency. I think people nowadays need an out-of-the-box experience, that's why promoting doom-emacs or spacemacs might be better than the default Emacs. I think if the video is well realised it could really be a huge win. Stay safe and well, Nathan Colinet