From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA commit freeze Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:51:06 +0300 Message-ID: <5215364A.9000605@yandex.ru> References: <871u5w1tpy.fsf@yandex.ru> <520FA630.8080003@yandex.ru> <5211BBC8.40408@yandex.ru> <52133662.1000900@yandex.ru> <5213FA1C.3080700@yandex.ru> <52147393.9070509@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377121890 9043 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2013 21:51:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 23:51:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VCGJP-0008AB-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 23:51:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56877 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCGJO-0004z9-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCGJB-0004y7-8G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCGJ5-00019n-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::234]:36374) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCGJ5-00019U-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:51:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c41so543645eek.11 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0zq3k8OIYEsxuadQct2ab7ZZjawCib7aJ2bgjZVoXlc=; b=qVbrTFxrvzg6yDROiyP9uIu/2FCkEPa2R0D33FPKCAi0d/NPL/Ta9jGlL8ILkVN+jO 6SYKEqErJ86zLAHbGmQElfgtBVNCpLPLbspiRn8llzFWDkbbzN2ppGzhQmQ3ixuQxvjd oXeRieBWKGEdtP6AcvSdeMcNGq0sybtUVNkYFKtFog1ZVI+YFviC6V0krCSV/gsEV4OD 4suhV5ky8R7bUVMxxZ8HcJP5wrh7IB07HV3/8RO77Al9zHmy2OOoeuCUVFjUj00WQEZS 8EKlBvuutck7beyM/gEKKVqab++ztN7HWGM0rFFFM/iGdQ6WJ6b7YrWLfESF7qqkk35b uSJg== X-Received: by 10.14.103.129 with SMTP id f1mr54122eeg.114.1377121870498; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.10.2] (62-118-214.netrun.cytanet.com.cy. [62.228.118.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm3680917eeo.15.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c00::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162959 Archived-At: On 21.08.2013 23:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Please fix those README files in `elpa'. >> You mean to make these changes local? > > Either that, or make the formulation such that it works in both cases. That would work, assuming this text doesn't show up in `describe-buffer', see below. >> I'd rather not have any unnecessary local changes, in general, and >> doing things differently from Melpa doesn't seem like a good >> idea either. > > In which way is it different? They intentionally don't use external README* files for generating package-readme.txt. I've mentioned that before: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-08/msg00428.html I guess elpa's main difference here is that you also display these texts on the elpa.gnu.org/packages/ "homepages". Maybe they should be different: a homepage can list [different] installation options, but the contents of a `describe-package' buffer don't need any of them. >> My point is, let's go back to using Commentary from .el. If >> any those descriptions seem lacking to you, let's improve them instead, and >> others will be able to benefit from that, too. > > I can't think of any reason why the README file should have any > significantly different content, since its role in places like github is > pretty much the same anyway. See above.