From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Antipov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ACL and --without-all Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:53:16 +0400 Message-ID: <521196AC.6010507@yandex.ru> References: <520D0D92.1060800@yandex.ru> <520DC7E5.3000208@cs.ucla.edu> <87bo4yhypy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376884421 25352 80.91.229.3 (19 Aug 2013 03:53:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Emacs development discussions To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 19 05:53:42 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VBGXG-000718-J6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 05:53:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40785 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBGXG-0005Ve-9b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45325) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBGX7-0005V3-A6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:53:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBGWz-0000um-Lv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from forward1h.mail.yandex.net ([84.201.187.146]:41682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBGWz-0000uF-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:53:25 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (smtp3h.mail.yandex.net [84.201.186.20]) by forward1h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BF95F9E1616; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:53:21 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 080121B404A7; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:53:20 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from unknown (unknown [37.139.80.10]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id R7ZkBIP3KG-rITOft3x; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:53:20 +0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1376884400; bh=3nkDRdMW9+S+cNsq3yiJ8+7xGxdycAoE8b1ZY2WvGi0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject: References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tkzuCErUWoRllpzzr/H6SYu6HwpkGWkNTSR3Sccjrd6x30ps4Xbq9ekYVxR/oLe1y aLHLjb4RmzlqbNp2Tqa2SFKGyvJAdtPUoHjJ86Wt+MUCNL3TsQL3DICopYNkt5k6QX Cb4WniE8liA+cXmuIaT5MxP5zWWspiamCBSxlej8= Authentication-Results: smtp3h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: <87bo4yhypy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 84.201.187.146 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162869 Archived-At: On 08/16/2013 11:38 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Paul Eggert writes: > > Dmitry Antipov wrote: > > > > Also I believe that it should be --with/--without, not --enable/--disable. > > > > Other GNU packages use --enable/--disable, though; > > it's better to be consistent. > > The --enable/--with distinction is unnecessary and hard to understand. I always treat this distinction as follows. --with-X means that X is the feature 'of it's own', externally implemented (mostly as a library), more or less independent from other features enabled with other --with= options, and makes sense outside of the Emacs code. That's why --with-dbus, --with-png and so it should be --with-acl (IMHO). --enable-X means that X is the feature of our own (Emacs) code, and mostly affects everything enabled with --with option. For example, --enable-debug turns eassert into something useful everywhere, --enable-link-time-optimization causes linking with lto1 backend for all object files, etc. Dmitry