From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mouse-autoselect-window-select Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:03:46 +0200 Message-ID: <520DF902.20401@gmx.at> References: <83wqnonvra.fsf@gnu.org> <520BA3FD.6030503@gmx.at> <83vc38nu03.fsf@gnu.org> <520BB93C.2070303@gmx.at> <838v04p2yx.fsf@gnu.org> <520CAB65.60303@gmx.at> <520CF78F.5020407@lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376647446 5218 80.91.229.3 (16 Aug 2013 10:04:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Davis Herring Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 16 12:04:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VAGt5-0001e5-VH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:04:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VAGt5-0007dS-IR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 06:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41973) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VAGsv-0007SU-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 06:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VAGso-0001yv-BT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 06:03:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:58070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VAGso-0001xn-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 06:03:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.47.34.174] ([62.47.34.174]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MCcE2-1VJaYZ10fy-009MXM for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:03:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <520CF78F.5020407@lanl.gov> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1QldfQ0yvPCueikOHJA6S++FXyf0Zk565PsSRPcRp7wIFHiG0J+ 2vnbJKeSYSKUm4YCEFAgWO2NHTNz6S3KnOv01omDITa/JglVmHzF5wEjAfqrP4j26GzsUgn G49dSoh83eOt7tmz05H6wVdHBS2TY3gpf/xrg2Lhrz1iZLyK0awsmSrQZAsvCU58qNHNbvw qvz72EpjMug4K7fitl9pQ== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162803 Archived-At: >> Unfortunately, some objects that shall be dragged can be difficult to >> localize with the mouse as, for example, the one-pixel divider between >> windows when scrollbars are absent. In such cases one window can get >> inadvertently selected even when selection is delayed. Disabling >> selection when the mouse is over a margin or fringe does help here. I >> invite you to experiment with the old and new behavior to either confirm >> my claim or provide evidence against it. > > Is that true even when it is required that the mouse be completely still > for the delay? I would think that the user would be trembling the mouse > around continuously trying to find the small drag target. There's a short period while waiting for the mouse cursor to change shape on vertical dividers where a user would not tremble the mouse. And since there's no change of the shape for the mode and headerlines, people used to see such a change from other applications might not tremble the mouse there either. martin