From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 11:45:18 +0000 Message-ID: <51e726ab004e8f0fa027@heytings.org> References: <87zh0mmr54.fsf@gmail.com> <5588fb25805d486be704@heytings.org> <5588fb2580d7e46863dd@heytings.org> <5588fb2580f248753c30@heytings.org> <5588fb25800032b1a06a@heytings.org> <993b9ce74de32c5450c3@heytings.org> <329d68a5ed872ee02e63@heytings.org> <329d68a5ed58df62b603@heytings.org> <663841c0e3d7644af86e@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6403"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 15 12:46:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lBcLB-0001Zq-8O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:46:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBcLA-0002cw-6Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37544) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBcJf-0001fR-OK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:45:25 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:52762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBcJc-0000gk-P6; Mon, 15 Feb 2021 06:45:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1613389518; bh=DA2N22zCfD54EjyFLAzaZmIp6dqocZrzAP0q3ssWle4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=eZ4nMmHiwt6KZNcYkWPgVyDcaUbtrI/2ej7tURR2SbcYQ5yFXMeLmexlU6ZG65BhE t9FWXLI1hc/9q6TPVLWmLkddbzUBtXcP0OKZtCf9vryPoCgvFwd3GLkrNvRmjgktAX ud2dFuyoZ1p7u4t2Hhg1jkBWDaXn3HKKdsjFPsXKvZUQGLMVilutJOWeZ/QGshb9wE vjiCrOoy2nx1bbcgRGhE74pengQ6kySrhZqZ+XH7ovIpqhE41PPFGo7aU6DzNeGfRX HqKZ/mj5C+ohdiZmj3hjrq7OO+vA4H3F6Ahp2tH8K05Ebmen8esBgVdxwas9ep0KfW zWQF78pwFv1dg== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264842 Archived-At: >>>>>> Most (All?) keyboards today have a Super key -- why not allocate >>>>>> that or parts of it to global third-party packages? >>>>> >>>>> Because the super modifier cannot be used in a terminal or console? >>>> >>>> That's what I thought until today, but indeed I may be wrong. Could >>>> you please explain how it is possible to use the super modifier in a >>>> console? >>> >>> Without any reconfigs, "C-x @ s x" for s-x (see the >>> event-apply-FOO-modifier functions). >> >> That's not "using the super modifier", that's "a trick to fake the use >> of the super modifier". > > The claim here was that it cannot be used, it can and trivially so and > works out of the box. The super modifier (and hyper, etc) are fully > supported by Emacs. > It seems that you forgot the context of the discussion. I was replying to your suggestion (see above) to "allocate the super key to third party packages". Typing "C-x @ s" is not "using the super key", it's a last resort possibility to fake the use of a super modifier. When you want to call goto-line, I'd bet you type "M-g M-g", not "C-x @ m g C-x @ m g".