From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>,
"Gregory Heytings" <ghe@sdf.org>,
"Arthur Miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>,
"Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
"Göktuğ Kayaalp" <self@gkayaalp.com>
Subject: RE: Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28]
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:25:35 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51a61ac0-3be5-4993-a981-fa2272b173d3@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D4F69B36-7201-47CD-A85D-FF64A6597164@aol.com>
You're all over the map, Ergus, arguing abstractly, not
to the point - bringing in undo-redo; newbie-vs-better
behavior; hiding the context menu behind C-mouse-3,
which also doesn't work in a terminal (mouse3.el uses
mouse-3); "moving the mouse to the toolbar to copy after
the selection" (huh? what's that about?); "M-w and C-y
dont share any key like C-c/C-v"; "we need the two hand
to undo instead of C-z" (two hands to undo?);...
Again:
>> The impetus for this discussion was expectations
>> of new users to get a context menu on `mouse-3'.
>> (But newbies are not the only reason for such a
>> feature.)
A context menu is useful for discoverability, including
by seasoned Emacs users (we are all discovering some
parts of Emacs). It should be easily configurable by
program and by users, adaptable for any mode or other
context. `mouse-3' is a good place for it, and not
only because that's where newbies expect it.
Emacs mouse selection, including extension & deletion,
are also useful. Both this and a `mouse-3' menu are
possible, with no sacrifice.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-16 1:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-14 3:06 Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28] Drew Adams
2020-09-14 6:11 ` Ergus
2020-09-14 6:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-14 6:48 ` Ergus
2020-09-14 7:49 ` tomas
2020-09-14 7:58 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 8:29 ` tomas
2020-09-14 9:03 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 9:12 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 11:37 ` tomas
2020-09-14 12:36 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-14 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-14 15:47 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-14 20:54 ` tomas
2020-09-15 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-15 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 7:47 ` Tak Kunihiro
2020-09-19 8:02 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-11 23:38 ` Context menus and mouse-3 Juri Linkov
2021-07-12 1:25 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-12 11:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 20:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-13 0:19 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-13 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-14 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-14 23:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-15 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-15 22:23 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-16 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 20:05 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-18 5:13 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-18 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-19 15:55 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-19 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-20 20:52 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-20 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-20 23:15 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-21 4:39 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-21 5:07 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-21 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-21 17:26 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-22 3:49 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-22 4:06 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-19 19:59 ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2021-07-20 20:51 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-12 22:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-12 23:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-13 3:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-13 23:32 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-14 2:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-14 23:32 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-15 1:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-15 22:31 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-16 18:50 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-15 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-15 22:28 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-16 18:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 23:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-17 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 21:46 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-17 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-19 17:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-19 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-14 15:10 ` Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28] Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-14 16:42 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 8:15 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 8:33 ` tomas
2020-09-14 15:57 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 19:17 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-15 20:33 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 22:47 ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 0:29 ` Corwin Brust
2020-09-16 1:47 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 1:25 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-16 8:10 ` Ergus
2020-09-16 15:02 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-17 3:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 20:10 ` Ergus
2020-09-17 21:58 ` Philip K.
2020-09-17 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 19:41 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-16 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 19:35 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-16 23:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-17 3:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 7:48 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-17 20:13 ` Ergus
2020-09-18 8:19 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-18 10:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-19 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
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