From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:03:07 +0200 Message-ID: <51CD979B.8010403@gmx.at> References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <51C8B2C8.4000803@gmx.at> <51C93CDB.2020301@gmx.at> <51C9C790.3020407@gmx.at> <51CA0D4C.7080204@alice.it> <51CC3E42.7020409@alice.it> <51CC4CC1.3030202@alice.it> <51CC8403.1030009@gmx.at> <51CCA56A.8000508@gmx.at> <51CD49CF.1090103@gmx.at> <2FB4C583-960C-4DA8-8B2E-29DF8D96770E@swipnet.se> <51CD6324.2040504@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372428214 32175 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2013 14:03:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= , Angelo Graziosi , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , Stephen Berman , Jambunathan K To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 28 16:03:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsZGs-0002Y9-7w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:03:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55292 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsZGr-000790-9s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33633) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsZGh-0006vH-Gn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:03:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsZGc-0004CP-GN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:03:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:63259) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsZGc-0004C8-4U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.28]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfC3Y-1UdmEO2POs-00OsHh for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:03:10 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Jun 2013 14:03:10 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-58-248.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.58.248]) [62.47.58.248] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 28 Jun 2013 16:03:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/egPEulWLegIY6znJxglDy+ZhzJZpgjgeH043Fom q1OJJF71os4/G1 In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161207 Archived-At: > We do not *want* to restore the sizes, we *must* restore the sizes. > Otherwise, if I have a frame with lots & lots of tiny windows and I > try to restore it in a default-sized frame, restoring will fail for > lack of space or for trying to bypass the safe minimum width/height. Indeed. I wanted to mention that in my reply but forgot. > And that's exactly the kind of frame I would be pretty pissed off to > have to rebuild by hand because s&r failed... > >> And in some cases we probably should restore >> the positions too - think of an attached speedbar frame. > > As I said in a previous message, "some cases" = "all cases" for me. If > people wants to allow that to be customizable, fine, we can add such > an option. We probably can't restore them with a tiling window manager. But such cases are special. martin