RE: bug#8667: 24.0.50; `bounds-of-thing-at-point' returns (N . N) for `comment'

RE: bug#8667: 24.0.50; `bounds-of-thing-at-point' returns (N . N) for `comment'

[Drew Adams]

In thread 8667@debbugs.gnu.org:

> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/emacs/trunk/files/head%3A/lisp/
> > and got this, which is typically the case:
> > 
> >  Please try again
> >  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. 
> 
> That URL is obsolete.  This one is correct and working:
>    http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files
> 
> I'm quite sure I posted a message about that to emacs-devel... let me
> see... yep, on Apr 10, Re: Development sources can be viewed in bzr
> with a Web browser.

That URL doesn't work either, at least not now:

 Service Temporarily Unavailable
 The server is temporarily unable to service your request due
 to maintenance  downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) Server at bzr.savannah.gnu.org Port 80

HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Drew Adams]

Is there a URL that works now?
I would like to download a Lisp library using HTTP.

> > This one is correct and working:
> >    http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files
> 
> That URL doesn't work either, at least not now:
> 
>  Service Temporarily Unavailable
>  The server is temporarily unable to service your request due
>  to maintenance  downtime or capacity problems. Please try 
>  again later.
>  
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) Server at bzr.savannah.gnu.org Port 80

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 07:11:57 -0700
> 
> Is there a URL that works now?
> I would like to download a Lisp library using HTTP.
> 
> > > This one is correct and working:
> > >    http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files
> > 
> > That URL doesn't work either, at least not now:
> > 
> >  Service Temporarily Unavailable
> >  The server is temporarily unable to service your request due
> >  to maintenance  downtime or capacity problems. Please try 
> >  again later.

Should be back on line now.

RE: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Drew Adams]

> > > >    http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files
> > > 
> > > That URL doesn't work either, at least not now:
> 
> Should be back on line now.

Yes, thank you - very quick.

RE: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Drew Adams]

> > > > >    http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files
> > > > That URL doesn't work either, at least not now:
> > Should be back on line now.
> Yes, thank you - very quick.

I meant that _Eli_ was very quick, not the site's response. ;-)

Clicking the `lisp' link hangs for several _minutes_, with the browser status
message "Waiting for http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs..."

Eventually it comes through with the page, but man is it slow!  I feel like I'm
back to the days of a 400 baud connection.  On n'arrete pas le progres...

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:51:29 -0700
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> I meant that _Eli_ was very quick, not the site's response. ;-)

That wasn't me, that were the savannah admins.  I just told them about
the problem.

> Clicking the `lisp' link hangs for several _minutes_, with the browser status
> message "Waiting for http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs..."

I don't see it here: it took about 2 _seconds_ for me.

RE: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Drew Adams]

> I don't see it here: it took about 2 _seconds_ for me.

Lucky you.

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Christoph Scholtes]

On 5/27/2011 3:17 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> Clicking the `lisp' link hangs for several _minutes_, with the browser status
>> message "Waiting for http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs..."
>
> I don't see it here: it took about 2 _seconds_ for me.

Same here.

RE: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Drew Adams]

 
> >> Clicking the `lisp' link hangs for several _minutes_, with 
> >> the browser status message
> >> "Waiting for http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs..."
> >
> > I don't see it here: it took about 2 _seconds_ for me.
> 
> Same here.

It depends when you try.  I tried just now and it took only 20 sec to get to the
site page and only 10 sec to get to subdirectory `lisp'.

That is not what I was seeing earlier today.

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Paul Eggert]

On 05/27/11 16:05, Drew Adams wrote:
> It depends when you try.  I tried just now and it took only 20 sec to get to the
> site page and only 10 sec to get to subdirectory `lisp'.
> 
> That is not what I was seeing earlier today.

I can confirm this.  I sometimes get response that's slow but
not ridiculously slow (right now, 2 to 10 seconds), and
sometimes ridiculously slow (earlier today, a couple of minutes).
This is to visit <http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files>.

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Stefan Monnier]

>> It depends when you try.  I tried just now and it took only 20 sec to
>> get to the site page and only 10 sec to get to subdirectory `lisp'.
>> That is not what I was seeing earlier today.
> I can confirm this.  I sometimes get response that's slow but
> not ridiculously slow (right now, 2 to 10 seconds), and
> sometimes ridiculously slow (earlier today, a couple of minutes).
> This is to visit <http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files>.

Loggerhead on a large repository such as Emacs's is a very demanding
process, so you will see such problems inevitably, unless your machine
has lots and lots of RAM and I don't think bzr.savannah.gnu.org is such
a monster server.


        Stefan

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Glenn Morris]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

> Loggerhead on a large repository such as Emacs's is a very demanding
> process, so you will see such problems inevitably, unless your machine
> has lots and lots of RAM and I don't think bzr.savannah.gnu.org is such
> a monster server.

In this distributed day and age, we can all run our own loggerheads:

bzr branch lp:loggerhead ~/.bazaar/plugins/loggerhead
cd /path/to/bzr/emacs
bzr serve --http
[install any missing python dependencies]

then point web-browser to http://127.0.0.1:8080/

No need to add to the load on Savannah any more.

Re: HTTP access to Emacs source code

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 16:40:41 -0700
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On 05/27/11 16:05, Drew Adams wrote:
> > It depends when you try.  I tried just now and it took only 20 sec to get to the
> > site page and only 10 sec to get to subdirectory `lisp'.
> > 
> > That is not what I was seeing earlier today.
> 
> I can confirm this.  I sometimes get response that's slow but
> not ridiculously slow (right now, 2 to 10 seconds), and
> sometimes ridiculously slow (earlier today, a couple of minutes).
> This is to visit <http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/emacs/trunk/files>.

I suggest to report this to Savannah-hackers-public@gnu.org.
Loggerhead's configuration was recently changed to make it consume
less resources (because it was caught at least once hogging the
machine); it could be that now it has too few of them.  Your reports
will allow the savannah admins to tune the configuration some more.

Of course, as Glenn points somewhat out humorously, installing bzr on
your machine and regularly updating from the master repository is a
much better way, even if, like Drew, you don't build your own Emacs.