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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285272 Archived-At: > Il 23/01/2022 21:06 Alan Third ha scritto: > > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 04:06:19PM +0100, Angelo Graziosi wrote: > > > > > Il 22/01/2022 12:33 Alan Third ha scritto: > > > It sounds like either they're not being drawn at all, or they're being > > > drawn in the wrong place (outside the frame bounds). I have no > > > immediate ideas why either should happen. > > > > > > Are you comfortable using a debugger? > > > > No, I am afraid.. > > > > All I can say is that the frame is drawn as if they are there. > > > > When I visit a buffer with many lines and long wrapped lines, > > holding mouse-1 pressed and dragging where they should be, the > > result is as if they are there. For example, long wrapped lines > > become not wrapped exactly as on Windows build where scroll bars are > > visible... > > Ah, I misunderstood your previous message, then. > > It sounds like they are there, because scroll events are only sent to > Emacs from the EmacsScroller object itself, so you're definitely > clicking on a scroller, it's just not being drawn. > > What system appearance do you use? Dark? Do you mean in macOS? No, never changed the appearance; in any case it is not dark, I do not use dark things... If you, instead, mean Emacs I sent the screenshots.. Are you seen them? Tim Cross wrote > Could this be due to a macOS setting? I did not change the settings and all other apps (browser, terminals etc.) *do have* scroll bars! Usually te bars are visible when the window has enough text. I am sure that in past builds also Emacs had scroll bars...