From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:40:12 +0200 Message-ID: <515C070C.1040700@online.de> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d2v4f5bb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r4jjp2d2.fsf@yandex.ru> <8738vagciq.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pgayzy.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo9wyr74.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5d0m3l3.fsf@gmail.com> <515BE920.1000503@online.de> <87obdwvw6v.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515BF509.2040706@online.de> <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364985544 20153 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 10:39:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 12:39:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNL6D-0006hW-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:39:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42320 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNL5o-0008DM-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:39:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42029) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNL5i-00088q-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:38:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNL5c-0006HZ-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:64148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNL5c-0006HU-8u; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4d0c1954.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.25.84]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MYrDT-1UB5Hh48MV-00V6uR; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:38:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:FqnFcbsC6FpV3wVgDKMDzkjaqxQrAasgCbtyxbutBuc uW5K+UPtsAJ87ADB1bnLznAsd2rOFFbR043bLNevvJsMiPDheB xS8mN1u/0sGav2tYnV9i+8RAB5TUqqxKBfeLRYa+r8mNwIzwSK dmm7SDCpznwK1cfQR6hDBDy0MtASI+PXVCs8VIGfcfr2nMxThf xxtwahTuEliffYdhdryJeg0yz42MvdpPEuv6wGd5G9E/7db9Q2 ok3YTFZ8q/OCtpvYDah/S/3MX4jfepSjuLKzbxc4v/+wTojJ87 OmI867CDEjn8sa4JbeWlgSw+BXVUi1JfHNOsbOkJfIYpXVb6Ed 3fzUnVjDwPBMqjpbYoT4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158583 Archived-At: Am 03.04.2013 11:58, schrieb Thien-Thi Nguyen: > () Andreas Röhler > () Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:23:21 +0200 > > Wherefrom the eagerness to remove Jambus's code then? > Seems more people believe that, even if it's wrong wrt GPL. > > The GPL exists to serve a social movement centered around sharing. > Releasing code under the GPL and then agitating to unshare that > (and/or future) code works against both the spirit of that movement > and the efforts of its supporters. > > It's no surprise then that people perceive continuing engagement as > more effort than necessary on their part, and cannot maintain the > stoicism that considering only the GPL allows. > > Writing this took a few minutes, reading it, slightly less. > Did i add/subtract/multiply/divide, or just compound the mess? > Indeed the social is at stake. Unlike antic computers, we must not take input as is, but interpret in it's range. Some person said he wants to hurt? If these words are all we know, than it might be done. However, can some words pronounced in seconds --even if repeated-- outweigh a dedication of years? If Jambunathan would be that selfish person as depicted, he'd rather worked in some usury-business than writing Emacs Lisp code. The mistake is elsewhere Andreas