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[83.253.209.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r3sm370671lfp.100.2021.12.03.03.41.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 03 Dec 2021 03:41:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <875ys6vsll.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::134 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::134; envelope-from=elis@hirwing.se; helo=mail-lf1-x134.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280822 Archived-At: --=-NEqajRvc3Am3XENW1Ssj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 19:24 +0800, Po Lu wrote: > Elis Hirwing writes: >=20 > > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 23:15 +0000, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > > Elis Hirwing writes: > > >=20 > > > > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 16:05 +0000, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > > > > Elis Hirwing writes: > > > > >=20 > > > > > > I would like to submit a package that I maintain to the > > > > > > NonGNU > > > > > > ELPA, > > > > > > it's currently on MELPA, I've been maintaining it for years > > > > > > and > > > > > > using > > > > > > it for years. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Before someone else brings it up, have you considered adding > > > > > the > > > > > package > > > > > to GNU ELPA?=C2=A0 Or are there reasons you are attempting to add > > > > > the > > > > > package > > > > > to NonGNU ELPA first? > > > >=20 > > > > Partly because I haven't signed the CLA with GNU and that I have > > > > contributors which I don't know if they have signed the CLA or > > > > not, > > > > so > > > > I just found it easier that way. > > >=20 > > > Looking at the contributor list, I certainly recognise more than a > > > few > > > names that have signed the CA and I'd expect to agree when asked if > > > they > > > would want to add the package to ELPA.=C2=A0 It is up to you if you > > > would > > > want to ask your contributors or not. > > >=20 > > > If you are sure that ELPA is not the right place, then adding the > > > package to NonGNU ELPA shouldn't be an issue, and would certainly > > > be > > > a > > > worthwhile addition. > >=20 > > I've now considered this and would still prefer the NonGNU ELPA. > >=20 > > Partly due to the extra work to check for CLA's for me from future > > contributors, then also that it may scare of future contributors that > > (like me) haven't done the necessary paperwork. > >=20 > > ~ Elis >=20 > Could you please explain what "webpaste" services are?=C2=A0 Could they b= e > SaaSS by any chance? Think pastebin-like services (not actually supporting pastebincom though). Yes they are in general SaaSS since the purpose of the mode is to "share parts of or whole buffers" by uploading it somewhere and get a link that can be shared.=C2=A0 However, I also make it fairly easy to define your own services to use and override which ones are used. So if you only want to use for own hosted solution you can do so. > Is the software run by these services free software, and can the user > run them locally. Some of them are for sure non-free software, but some of them are free or open source software, one of the free solutions that can be hosted by the user is bpa.st which uses the software pinnwand which is MIT licensed: https://github.com/supakeen/pinnwand There's helper functions specifically for pinnwand to make it easy to create provider entries that uses pinnwand hosted in other places. ~ Elis --=-NEqajRvc3Am3XENW1Ssj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEZ/6Y8oxEzyIYKOEv1X76Ylyakl8FAmGqAnUACgkQ1X76Ylya kl8hHw/+P5RRyhsKPz/IPNyQDJ/g5ly0RqxuepdOtHgqXcIAXcyobPYjFVpD/GWS 6NjWn82+gTFA3Qn5XTGEUgWXCjErDIH6TlYyanAcRaE5iAlsTltZpJPKaMNL3vne r8J6UubDxI8htCXsbms00fGOKmi38cMoZ5bnQMBRDwEl5QGMG6XwXmb+ORjuhbpI Rd79SIl8LI11AWTCVxs24wyw3o9ljxYD+Jr+jd//EGoOGH84ZyvfnhYDRrOwP4X8 HZUM3JsrtYlnl5GqSym2Axm0z5H/cjr+OOuHT1JjqoaubUWqoWIErHrbQdWSJeEX VUaU8avNlMdtRGvpvD4aEB6ac0Ff9RbZWPn9lxkPdOEOIGE94MzRl44wui7IEP1J BNMNd6cx+SG+EAhdTisgE8yKyQcm6dfWNpqbUZX3ADE04RNMKkzVIi1u/VF9eByi DsRu3AnfA8nmA4IPKF4sqXncfotpudJLnLbCdiqoyQFzzrSqgNn3cB29f2vmrsYC KJU1KNR0MllkiIQehviylLu3Ouhj3BvnJC01oIhl5cYE0H5+S5ER8GEDBoxcs/Po DlqPOmP1be9YEmX3whqKGm6y34a233dNblEdjKnL3Qw1rf0tcvNEhT2fPTHawThI V5PA+KloEUOF2GxDz6K09UvOLXh69zhE1qCEwtteEbtYs+/fabw= =MzCe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NEqajRvc3Am3XENW1Ssj--