From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:39:18 +0100 Message-ID: <5142C216.9060506@online.de> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d2v4f5bb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87a9q7eynu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y5dpeqoo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ppz1ebno.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363329519 27603 80.91.229.3 (15 Mar 2013 06:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 15 07:39:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UGOIB-0001PK-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:39:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGOHp-0000Lb-8Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:38:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49799) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGOHk-0000LG-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGOHj-0007bq-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:38:36 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:61904) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGOHj-0007bb-6o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:38:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4db9a0a9.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.160.169]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M1kaM-1UZRXM3p0M-00u3ZH; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:38:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 In-Reply-To: <87ppz1ebno.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:JlhPpkAEluyzHr+RVymxReBxc1EyysxYhqxGzz03J8O ZyD6FxWjHzU3yZ6reAYROqzkqNFvlMwNyJg4fvGS/+/J8YUGQK nHqKRGKe0UshLlOgIKzB7AT46YjAQzQrUD+u831pBsQ6q9f7Na N+jd8czVLx3sH6vkEpy5DUzHxt6TAeY6eqVEynQy/mIsqDS6vI sNAzLZKsi8txsWk3+MC5yd7un4UJPqZlqMSQw36AcZgzb0OMuN kcHE4UOG6gCfq8tUnnndXLyPRjojs8J7gyWZ1A5MTJobs/CFSB mmDKGe4XhTlr1vlir+doFgVlOfSzxiquGCdnd3hvIeIDyzopFx +S8xeJut96wYnglxSrhmcafS6GpHQvMSarA93b0eU X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.187 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157885 Archived-At: Am 15.03.2013 01:42, schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: > Richard Stallman writes: > > Ad hominem, Richard? That's usually beneath you. > > > > It is not an ad-hominem attack, it is criticism of what you are > > saying. > > You dismissed the content of what I wrote, citing not the content, but > an attribution of intent to me. That is, without doubt, argumentum ad > hominem. > > Your attribution was also false. I am genuinely concerned that the > FSF and I disagree over the scope of my assignments. Hi Stephen, sounds good and justified. BTW can you remember a case, where the claimed purpose of the assignment came into action? I.e. did FSF act at US-courts based on it's Emacs copyright ownership? Also: why is the famous assigment text hardly visible in the net throughout years? Best, Andreas I don't know if > it matters enough to me to do something about it -- I'll have to think > about that -- but I was shocked by the breadth of the claim that you > seemed to be making. > > >