From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:38:06 +0100 Message-ID: <513D89DE.5070302@online.de> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <513D7565.3080507@online.de> <1362984096.1644.1.camel@german-desktop> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362987450 645 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2013 07:37:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?B?Ikdlcm3DoW4gXCJBLiBBcmlhc1wiIg==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 11 08:37:50 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UExIr-0005pu-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:37:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44809 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UExIU-00060k-Sk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53805) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UExIQ-00060U-TR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UExIP-0002ss-6Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]:52794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UExIO-0002sm-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 03:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.21] (brln-4dbc4c93.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.76.147]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LdPHS-1Ufnmp2rBq-00igUW; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:37:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 In-Reply-To: <1362984096.1644.1.camel@german-desktop> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:vXrSJYaEex6Vuzd7h3T/a2/CWAlx7pldIJIXM3afPL9 KrCwtHA+CiE7B6KBZWBjVDxOjCUVy25PSSAm3DElapLMXfFmHE xx1TQ4J/QQk+2A1+Hf1cki25qxTmf3hI5ZZjqiFcdD8/IyIOoB EF8LHFTwg41zG2OlUobPyLjtdbeBTMjkqvusAHUrr/JGQ5wh+h x6XPBEVSvW2jgphTDZ9xDF2pSDlQ5ks/QVYsDfB6J8YvJn/IdC 5ARs6gihfAuKh0aUaqYqwzayelZrNrG8QWB34fz27BodqEtJE2 5SWWB4nGcvftVaM23An0wA9RB7zHTBaHDZ5/WLqKJfBPdnkC4m t48d+sv9dHu50KP+v5OxMBzBOg9nL1r6Kzemkdk76 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.186 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157724 Archived-At: Am 11.03.2013 07:41, schrieb Germán A. Arias: > El lun, 11-03-2013 a las 07:10 +0100, Andreas Röhler escribió: >> Am 11.03.2013 03:32, schrieb Stefan Monnier: >>>> I would like to withdraw my pleasure in having these files distributed >>>> as part of Org distribution. I would like to register my displeasure in >>>> a substantial way. >>> >>> If you say that those files should not be covered by your existing >>> assignment, then we respect this (of course, that needs to be done >>> beforehand). >> >> Hi Stefan, >> >> by creating a precedence case accepting conditions beyond the GPL, IMHO that proceeding >> puts the validity of GPL on risk. >> >> Other authors now on discontentment --for what reasons whatever-- might detect that. >> >> Best, >> >> Andreas >> > > Once the changes/files has been send to the project, these are owned by > the FSF. That mean "copyright assignment", that you are agree to losing > the rights in those changes. That might be right. Not sure if any states law accept it's legal stipulations. Non-US-citizen have to abide to theirs local law, not to US-Courts. Anyway, stressing the need of copyright assignment might spread the illusion, a free software project might require that procedure in order to distribute code. What the case at stake seems to demonstrate so far. In fact publishing under GPL or other free license is needed solely for the right to distribute, not CA. Read your copyright assignment. > > > Don't understand what your are saying here. Never signed one, for the very reasons given. BTW, looking at the roots of the current affair might help avoiding mistakes http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2013-02/msg00701.html Andreas