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From: "Eric M. Ludlam" <eric@siege-engine.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 cedet-eieio@lists.sourceforge.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [cedet-eieio] Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:41:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51255F2F.7060707@siege-engine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87621o84pd.fsf@engster.org>

On 02/19/2013 02:49 PM, David Engster wrote:
> Stefan Monnier writes:
>> For the CL package we solved this problem by leaving the "cl.el" package
>> as a "compatibility package" only required by the packages that haven't
>> been updated to use the new names.  CL was so widely used that it will
>> take a *long* time to get rid of all uses of the old names, whereas
>> EIEIO's use is not as pervasive, so we don't necessarily have to do the
>> same for it.
>> This said, maybe it would make sense to move "eieio.el" to "cl-eieio.el"
>> (with clean names, autoloaded from cl-lib) and then make eieio.el
>> into a simple compatibility package full of aliases.
>
> What to do with the other files like eieio-base then? We cannot rename
> it to cl-eieio-base.el because of name clashes, but it also provides
> part of the public, CLOS-like functions.

There is nothing in eieio-base from CLOS.  Those are all just handy 
base-classes / concepts that I used elsewhere in CEDET.

> To summarize the options so far:
>
> 1) Prefix everything with eieio- and be done with it. Create obsolete
>     aliases for the old names and get rid of them "soon" (Emacs
>     25?). Alternatively, create an eieio-compat package with aliases for
>     the old names.
>
> 2) Prefix everything with eieio- and create cl- aliases for the
>     CLOS-like functionality. Those aliases may be defined in
>
>     2a) the eieio* files itself, or
>     2b) in a separate cl-whatever.el file.
>
>     As in 1), define obsolete aliases for the old names or use a compat
>     package.
>
> 3) Rename eieio to cl-eieio with clean names (i.e., eieio- and
>     cl-prefixes), autoloaded from cl-lib, and make eieio.el a simple
>     compatibility package full of aliases.
>
> I'm currently pretty much tied on "2b)+compat package" and 3).

I am fine with most of these ideas, but agree with David that option 3 
is pretty good.

Eric



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-20 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-10 18:10 Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace Stefan Monnier
2013-02-12 22:10 ` David Engster
2013-02-12 23:05   ` Drew Adams
2013-02-13  6:44     ` David Engster
2013-02-13 14:51       ` Drew Adams
2013-02-13  2:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-13 16:31     ` David Engster
2013-02-14  1:11       ` [cedet-eieio] " Eric M. Ludlam
2013-02-14 13:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 14:00           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-02-14 21:17           ` David Engster
2013-02-14 22:16             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-18 21:32               ` David Engster
2013-02-19  3:26                 ` [cedet-eieio] " Stefan Monnier
2013-02-19 19:49                   ` David Engster
2013-02-19 21:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20 23:41                     ` Eric M. Ludlam [this message]
2013-03-29 10:04               ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-03-29 14:20                 ` Drew Adams
2013-03-29 21:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 14:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 21:28         ` David Engster
2013-02-14 22:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-14 22:26             ` David Engster
2013-02-17 17:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-18 20:55                 ` David Engster
2013-02-19  3:15                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-13  3:13   ` [cedet-eieio] " Eric M. Ludlam

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