From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: First draft of the Emacs website Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:45:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50ddb828-c55e-4cfd-bbc5-4acc5eba91c7@default> References: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9k3s1y8.fsf@blackbird.zamazal.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449074737 28534 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2015 16:45:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:45:37 +0000 (UTC) To: Milan Zamazal , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 02 17:45:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AWy-0004kA-DF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 17:45:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AWx-0005rf-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:45:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49679) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AWt-0005rN-Km for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AWq-0007IE-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:25768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AWq-0007IA-Jw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id tB2GjFKI005101 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:45:15 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tB2GjFuZ012557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:45:15 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tB2GjEif005141; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:45:14 GMT In-Reply-To: <87h9k3s1y8.fsf@blackbird.zamazal.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195763 Archived-At: > Thank you for your effort! >=20 > When designing the pages (and not only you and only these ones!), please > don't forget about our handicapped fellows and try to comply with Web > Accessibility Guidelines (see e.g. http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag.php > for start). >=20 > Quickly looking at the present state, there are probably some problems > with contrast and maybe with fonts. (Rule of thumb if nothing else: If > something is not very easy to read for a perfectly sighted person then > it's probably hard to read or unreadable for visually impaired visitors, > dyslectics or other handicapped people.) It's also very good to skim > through the page with a screen reader, if you have the opportunity, to > discover possible problems for the blind visitors. FWIW, this is the most helpful feedback about the website, I think. And here is a one-page overview: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/glance/. Trying to improve accessibility will likely automatically address some of the other suggestions/concerns that people have raised. Most of the things that make for an accessible site also make sense in terms of general UI sanity and ease of use.